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philkid 16th October 2006 02:50 PM

Moro ivory pommel for comment
 
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Hi guys, wanna know if anyone of you have encountered an ivory pommel with this shape? How old you think this is? Can someone also translate what is written on the blade. This is owned by a holy man. Comments will be much appreciated. :)

kino 17th October 2006 11:31 PM

Can you post photos of the whole sword?

Bill M 18th October 2006 01:46 AM

In my tradition the designs on the blade are called "sigils." The one on the right looks very familiar. Will need to do some research.

I like the piece,

Ian 18th October 2006 05:19 AM

Nice old ivory ...
 
Now that looks like an old and much handled piece of ivory. Lovely patina and carving that has been fondled.

The shape reminds me of one that our host, Lee, posted on the old Forum. I think we concluded it was an older style and more likely to be Malay or Brunei than Sulu or Mindanao.

I will look for that old thread.

Ian.

Edit: Here is the thread http://www.vikingsword.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000589.html but Lee's pictures are no longer there. However, there is a picture of Datu Piang (page 2) with a similar hilted sword

philkid 18th October 2006 05:22 AM

@ kino

Sorry promised the owner not the post the whole sword. It is now in his "private" collection. :)

kino 18th October 2006 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by philkid
@ kino

Sorry promised the owner not the post the whole sword. It is now in his "private" collection. :)

"pisting yawa"

Spunjer 18th October 2006 02:16 PM

devil
 
Quote:

"pisting yawa"

LOL! :D :D :D

last time i heard someone said that i did something i wasn't suppose to. too funny..

philkid 18th October 2006 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by kino
"pisting yawa"

Is it a joke or are you serious? If you are serious, "pisting yawa ka rin" :D

philkid 18th October 2006 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ian
Now that looks like an old and much handled piece of ivory. Lovely patina and carving that has been fondled.

The shape reminds me of one that our host, Lee, posted on the old Forum. I think we concluded it was an older style and more likely to be Malay or Brunei than Sulu or Mindanao.

I will look for that old thread.

Ian.

Edit: Here is the thread http://www.vikingsword.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000589.html but Lee's pictures are no longer there. However, there is a picture of Datu Piang (page 2) with a similar hilted sword

Thank you very much for the link. Much appreciated. About the arabic word on the blade, anyone here know how to translate it?

Battara 18th October 2006 06:51 PM

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thanks Ian - I was looking for that link for my Datu Piang picture with a similar kris:

Battara 18th October 2006 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by philkid
@ kino

Sorry promised the owner not the post the whole sword. It is now in his "private" collection. :)

What a shame - it would be good for research purposes. :(

kino 18th October 2006 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by philkid
Is it a joke or are you serious? If you are serious, "pisting yawa ka rin" :D


Just a joke, Pare. :D

Ian 18th October 2006 11:35 PM

Moderator's note
 
kino/philkid:

English please guys ... no private jokes and let's keep the tone appropriate.

Ian.


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