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aspalathos 17th January 2026 09:41 PM

Katana original ?
 
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I cant rekove handle

werecow 17th January 2026 10:33 PM

It's a WWII shin gunto (sometimes they have older blades but hard to say). I know there are some fakes out there but I'm not very well versed in them, though fwiw I don't see anything suspicious.

Patterson25 18th January 2026 08:56 AM

Hi,
Just add DW40 above the guard, shake up and down the hilt and press the silver button on the fushi.
Normally you will be able to remove the tsuka.
Best wishes,

aspalathos 18th January 2026 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by aspalathos (Post 301765)
I cant rekove handle

finally managed to remove the handle.

Pieje 18th January 2026 06:15 PM

Definitely original.
Never clean the handle/nakago, aside of some oil/wd40 and gentle rubbing with a cloth.

serdar 18th January 2026 11:15 PM

Chek the blade with japanese sword expert, i think it is not old blade but made in period of mountings, by some blade smith, maybe for general? It has file marks but they are crude, and it has stamp partialy seen under habaki, im 90% sure it is not nihonto.

Get it examined with expert for japanese swords, it is finely made, it could be valuable.
Signature is done on made, not adition.

RobT 19th January 2026 12:41 AM

Nakago=Tang
 
aspalathos,

Pieje is correct. Never clean the tang beyond a bit of WD40 and a soft cloth. I advise you to check out the Nihonto Message Board forum for full advice on the care and feeding of Japanese swords. It is a world unto itself and if you don't know what to do, you can make a grave error that will damage your piece and significantly erode its value. Your blade has a signature which means that it is at least a cut above the entirely factory made blades. Someone on the message board will be able to translate the signature.

Sincerely,
RobT

Battara 19th January 2026 04:30 AM

I agree with everyone. Might be a traditionally made blade, but not ancestral.

aspalathos 19th January 2026 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by aspalathos (Post 301765)
I cant rekove handle

Hi and thanks to all. What I find strange is that the tang only has one hole.

JayHasAKeris 19th January 2026 02:19 PM

That is very common. As already recommended, the NMB will likely give you the assistance you need.. They were very helpful about a nihonto of mine there and were incredibly swift and knowledgable. Japanese swords is a world of its own, just like keris. They have decades of research ahead of you, ask the experts :)

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Originally Posted by aspalathos (Post 301814)
Hi and thanks to all. What I find strange is that the tang only has one hole.


Rick 19th January 2026 05:27 PM

Nihonto Forum
 
https://www.militaria.co.za/nmb/

JayHasAKeris 19th January 2026 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick (Post 301828)

They have a specific translation section... wasn't sure if a link was allowed! Be sure to post a picture of the Mei (the sword signature... those japanese signs hidden under the handle) there, but right way up :)

Battara 20th January 2026 05:01 PM

The link can be allowed if it is not to something involving selling/buying.

aspalathos 20th January 2026 08:29 PM

Gentlemen, thank you very much, it's great to be a member of this forum. There are wonderful and patient people who are always there to help.
Thanks !!!

RobT 21st January 2026 01:51 AM

Nevr-Dull
 
aspalathos,

One other thing I should have mentioned, The NMB members seem to be ok with using Nevr-Dull to kill live rust on the blade if necessary. Don't use it on the tang of course but you can use it on the blade.

Sincerely,
RobT

David R 21st January 2026 04:34 PM

Your blade looks to have two stamps, Sho and Seki, so it is non traditional in some way and made in one of the workshops of Seki City. Non traditional covers a lot of different things, and having a signature means it was hand forged, not "Machine made".

Oriental Armament Collection 21st January 2026 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by aspalathos (Post 301775)
finally managed to remove the handle.

Hello, friend,
This is a typical Japanese military sword from World War II. I have translated the inscription on the hilt and marked it in the picture. I hope you can understand it. The character in the plum blossom emblem is '昭', and the others are.濃州住大矢友信. I hope this helps you.Attachment 250686

mariusgmioc 24th January 2026 12:15 AM

In my opinion this katana is a Chinese fake. The signature is a giveaway as it is not chiseled with the right tools and technique.

But I am no expert.

I am curious what the guys from the Japanese swords forum have to say?!

RobT 24th January 2026 12:56 AM

Could-a Fooled Me
 
mariusgmioc,

I’m no expert either but, from what I can see from the photos, it would have fooled me. Everything about it: the crispness of the sheath fittings, the look of the hilt, the paint damage on the sheath, looks ok to me. Maybe, if I could see it in person, I would feel differently but, from the pictures, I can’t see anything that would raise the alarm. If it's a fake, they did a darn good job. The only thing that concerns me is that Oriental Armament Collection (who is based in China) could so readily identify the Japanese characters. As you said, “I am curious what the guys from the Japanese swords forum have to say”.

Sincerely,
RobT

aspalathos 24th January 2026 06:19 AM

Hey, the sword was bought at an EU auction house where their experts said it was original. But I still like to hear other opinions, especially when you pay a considerable amount. So far, it has been confirmed on both forums that it is the original

aspalathos 24th January 2026 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Oriental Armament Collection (Post 301873)
Hello, friend,
This is a typical Japanese military sword from World War II. I have translated the inscription on the hilt and marked it in the picture. I hope you can understand it. The character in the plum blossom emblem is '昭', and the others are.濃州住大矢友信. I hope this helps you.Attachment 250686

Tnx mate!

Oriental Armament Collection 24th January 2026 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by aspalathos (Post 301917)
Tnx mate!

You won't be wrong to trust me; this is an authentic Type 98 military sword from World War II.

Oriental Armament Collection 24th January 2026 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by RobT (Post 301910)
mariusgmioc,

I’m no expert either but, from what I can see from the photos, it would have fooled me. Everything about it: the crispness of the sheath fittings, the look of the hilt, the paint damage on the sheath, looks ok to me. Maybe, if I could see it in person, I would feel differently but, from the pictures, I can’t see anything that would raise the alarm. If it's a fake, they did a darn good job. The only thing that concerns me is that Oriental Armament Collection (who is based in China) could so readily identify the Japanese characters. As you said, “I am curious what the guys from the Japanese swords forum have to say”.

Sincerely,
RobT

Hello friend, can you give me the address of the Japanese sword forum?

JayHasAKeris 24th January 2026 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Oriental Armament Collection (Post 301936)
Hello friend, can you give me the address of the Japanese sword forum?

This is the Nihonto Message Board, a collection of Forums:
https://www.militaria.co.za/nmb/

Their translation section:
https://www.militaria.co.za/nmb/foru...on-assistance/

Rick said, links are allowed, so these are the direct ones. :) Although the general board was posted above already, just adding it for convenience.

Battara 26th January 2026 01:26 AM

Whatever this is, I have noticed that occasionally I find Chinese made blades with old shin or kai gunto mounts.


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