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corrado26 11th December 2025 10:46 AM

Albanian pistols
 
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These pistols from Albania or Greece have fantastic silver stocks. Is there anyone here who can explain to me how these silver shafts with the many dimples were made?

Jim McDougall 11th December 2025 03:31 PM

These are wonderful 'rat tail' pistols, but fat outside my range.
I'm sure you have Robert Elgood's " Arms of Greece and her Balkan Neighbors" . and wonder if there might be some ideas in that. Silver work is a very specialized craft so jewelry workers producing sword hilts, or resources on them might have info.
Just ideas and looking forward to replies here with answers.

corrado26 11th December 2025 06:18 PM

Oh yes, I have the Elgood books, but there isn't a single sentence that answers my question, what was the reason why I asked here. :D

Jim McDougall 12th December 2025 09:55 PM

Sorta figured that Udo, I dont have those handy right now so couldnt really check. Unfortunately most arms books are mostly typology, classifications and very little if anything on esoterica, history or manufacturing particulars.

I tried looking into references on swords which dealt with silver hilt swords, and while they describe the types of decoration no mention is made of the means by which these were achieved. I suppose only references focused on the making of jewelry, especially dealing with national or ethnic styles etc. might have details. Some references like that have appendix' with such info.

Not much help, but I wanted to add something, while hoping somebody out there with specific interest in these might know.

gp 13th December 2025 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by corrado26 (Post 301244)
These pistols from Albania or Greece have fantastic silver stocks. Is there anyone here who can explain to me how these silver shafts with the many dimples were made?

maybe best to contact their museum?

https://www.muzeu-fa.gov.al/english/

or as in the former Yu some books have been written about Balkan weapons by Đurđica Petrović:

https://www.dumus.hr/en/cultural-his...ms-collection/

https://imus.org.rs/en/collection/co...ary-equipment/

and if Greek:

https://warmuseum.gr/en/the-museums/...eum-of-athens/

corrado26 13th December 2025 08:53 AM

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https://www.muzeu-fa.gov.al/english/ No email contact possible with the given mail adress

or as in the former Yu some books have been written about Balkan weapons by Đurđica Petrović:


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I wrote to the Dubrovnik museum and wate for an answer. Thanks a lot for this advice.

corrado26 13th December 2025 11:12 AM

It looks like it is also not possible to contact the museum in Dubrovnik by e-mail; all the addresses given on its homepage do not work. Too bad!:mad:

CutlassCollector 13th December 2025 11:24 AM

Just a wild guess.
But carefully dripping melted liquid silver onto the cold brass may cause that effect. Obviously covering areas where you do not want the dimples to go.

It seems more plausible than coating the whole thing with silver and then having to carve out each dimple separately.

gp 13th December 2025 03:33 PM

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It looks like it is also not possible to contact the museum in Dubrovnik by e-mail; all the addresses given on its homepage do not work. Too bad!:mad:

try this mail address ( it's the secretary of the museum) :)

tajnistvo@dumus.hr

or otherwise the museum in Zagreb which has a big collection as well


https://www.hismus.hr/en/collections...ion/overview/#

email: MMIGK-LUKOVDOL@HISMUS.HR

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