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Marius66 18th March 2025 02:37 PM

Small sharp and massive sword, horn of Africa ??
 
Hello everyone,
I just received this simple but well-made and massive sword,
extremely sharp, 65cm long for 700grams
Any idea of ​​its exact origin? I'm thinking Sudan, maybe Ethiopia

and its age?
Perhaps the scabbard is more recent than the blade. Do any experts also know what this type of small saber would be named ? not a shotel I think ,
just a sword ?

Marius66 18th March 2025 02:40 PM

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Now the pictures
( I tried 3 times before,
The site has problems these last days

Kund regards

Tim Simmons 18th March 2025 04:41 PM

Nice a kind of jambiya. Like it with the scabbard

Pertinax 18th March 2025 05:09 PM

Hi Marius66!

Interesting sword, might be worth considering Ethiopia, Eritrea.

Respectfully,
Yuri

Martin Lubojacky 19th March 2025 05:11 PM

Hi Marius 66,

This weapon is from the southern part of Ethiopia. They are still being produced, this one is older- maybe 40 years? Somewhat similar dagger is here:
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=22581
Best,
Martin

Marius66 19th March 2025 11:00 PM

Hello and thank you all !
I was feeling something like danakil desert region...
Thank you Martin for the link ,
I read on another post that they are lot of different quality blades in these models,
This one is not perfect but impressive with the large central ridge on both sides ( make like a diamond section )
associated with extreme sharpness.
I will clean/ sand it a little.

For the horn or hoof hilt parts ,
I just wanted to say that when I receive it,
The were all almost brown and seemed wood
parts and after a baking soda bath we could see the transluscence.
For me this sword is clearly earlier thant the 80 's

Martin Lubojacky 20th March 2025 05:43 PM

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I Let me attach photo of other long and heavy daggers (or machetes) from the southern half of Ethiopia....
All of them are completely locally made, the biggest one can measure about 70 cm. I consider them more - less contemporary (although they were made X years ago, they are still in use and local people continue to make new ones). ---Nevertheless with the exception of the three daggers in the middle of the picture, which, I think, could be least from the middle of the 20th century.

Marius66 20th March 2025 10:08 PM

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The fact that people-bladesmith still make these kind of sword doesn't mean that all these sword are recent ones.

The ''model'' and technic are still the same,
Cf this dagger taken back during first italian incursion ( blade looks mahdist ) looks like post 1950 ones
On this museum, only weapons collected before 1900
I'll try to find some.pics in this italian museum of similar long knives as we discuss.


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