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weapons 27 1st August 2016 05:21 PM

three british sword for id please
 
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English sword
there are no markings on the three swords
the last sword is marine sword!!!

thank

weapons 27 1st August 2016 05:25 PM

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the two

weapons 27 1st August 2016 05:30 PM

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the last

Kmaddock 1st August 2016 05:39 PM

Hi
I would question the two brass guard swords, the casting on the naval one is very rough and I do not think this is an issue item, grip wrapping looks v poor.
The one with the cross motif also looks not to be of the best quality either
The silver coloured guard sword looks to be better quality.
Might be a 1821 troopers sword or an artillery model
I aim looking on a phone do images are on the small size
I have robinsons book so will come back to you later on
Regards
K

RobertGuy 1st August 2016 07:36 PM

I agree the first sword is a cheap Indian tourist item. The 1827 pattern Royal Navy sword seems a bit rough but I would not label it a fake without closer examination. Interesting that it seems to have the remains of a correct pattern sword knot attached. The other sword looks to be an 1821 British Light Cavalry Officers sword. The etching on the blade has all but been rubbed away but it obviously was etched. Troopers swords were not. Closer examination of the the latter two swords might reveal makers or traders names etched on the ricassos.

weapons 27 2nd August 2016 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by RobertGuy
I agree the first sword is a cheap Indian tourist item. The 1827 pattern Royal Navy sword seems a bit rough but I would not label it a fake without closer examination. Interesting that it seems to have the remains of a correct pattern sword knot attached. The other sword looks to be an 1821 British Light Cavalry Officers sword. The etching on the blade has all but been rubbed away but it obviously was etched. Troopers swords were not. Closer examination of the the latter two swords might reveal makers or traders names etched on the ricassos.

No it has no markings on the sword ...
on the second there are some things written on the blade ... I am unable to read entirely !!
for the first it is a copy made in india ???

Kmaddock 2nd August 2016 05:09 PM

Hi
Etching is for Artillery Volunteers with a queen Victoria crown
so I would go with

1821 pattern artillery sword

google these words and you will find similar examples
regards
Ken

Evgeny_K 4th August 2016 10:50 AM

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