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AndrewVigo 20th December 2015 11:25 AM

Spanish or Prussian markings?
 
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Hello
Can anyone help me identify these blade markings on an old sword my brother has? I was told they are Spanish, but have seen some similar that are Prussian.
Thank you
Andy

fernando 20th December 2015 03:34 PM

Welcome to the forum, Andrew :) .
I would be surprised if these were indeed Spanish :o

corrado26 20th December 2015 04:05 PM

I think these signs are of Mexican origin
corrado26

AndrewVigo 21st December 2015 08:51 AM

It is in a Walloon type sword, so not Mexican! And I do not think the Mexicans had the ability to make such quality stamps as used on the kings head.
I was given a copy of page 1 of 1000 Marks of European Blademakers. Apparently an 8 pronged sun symbol is quite unique (most have less prongs), and are connected with Alman de Juan of Spain in the 16C

Fernando K 21st December 2015 11:26 AM

Hey there

Without entering into the definition of origin, I wonder how is it in high relief or bas-relief, or a photographic problem, focus? In addition, for an accurate, complete picture be advisable or gun na opinion.

Affectionately. Fernando K

AndrewVigo 22nd December 2015 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Fernando K
Hey there

Without entering into the definition of origin, I wonder how is it in high relief or bas-relief, or a photographic problem, focus? In addition, for an accurate, complete picture be advisable or gun na opinion.

Affectionately. Fernando K


Sorry, I do not understand. If you are asking me about my photographic skills, I have none.

fernando 22nd December 2015 12:39 PM

Fernando K is sometimes betrayed by the translating engine.
I guess he suggests that the picture doesn't show whether the marks are protruding out of the blade or impressed into it.
He also suggests that a complete view of the whole sword would help to define its origin ... which i fully agree.
Could you that, Andrew ?

Lee 6th March 2018 01:52 PM

A blade with similar 'crowned bearded head' marks mounted as a hunting sword with mid 18th century London silver hallmarks is reported to have been sold as lot 310 by Taylor & Fletcher on 22 Feb 2018.

M ELEY 6th March 2018 05:22 PM

Wundes? If the sword (once we see it!) is of the late 17th/early 18th, could this be a variation of the Wundes Brothers stamp, as found on German and English hangers of the above mentioned period.
Mark


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