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Iliad 9th September 2015 07:52 AM

Sword for ID
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Good Morning/Evening all,
I realise that my Title of "sword for ID" is not particularly informative, but I do not know what else to put!
The blade has been chromed and so any markings on the blade have been obscured.
To my uneducated eye, the sword appears European, but I really have no idea as to what I have.
Any comments at all will be much appreciated.

Jim McDougall 9th September 2015 10:24 AM

Brian, a very handsome sword indeed! and by 'style' it is potentially a British hunting hanger of mid to latter 18th century. Actually in its form it very much resembles (if I recall correctly) one which was owned by George Washington (particularly in the hilt form which is wrapped in what is known as a gadroon style).
It is of course hard to say from photos more on authenticity, and it is hard to fathom why someone would chrome a blade. Whatever the case, that is pretty much the description as far as form.

Best regards,

Hotspur 9th September 2015 02:28 PM

Washington's cuttoe was made by an Englishman that had settled in colony of New York.

I'll take a look through Hartzler's book

British silver hilts should have hallmarks on the guard. Some British silver plated hilts may not show marks but it was expected. Below a link to a sold item at Bonhams refering to Bailey with a blade marked with a German maker

The tang button on the sword shown here is not original and the blade no doubt dismounted for plating. The modern nut and button as much a shame as the plating. While the blade type is of the form that may belong with such a hilt, we must always keep later composites in mind. Either someone added an extention to the tang, or the blade was salvaged from another sword. It does also appear that the blade was shortened, as the main fuller runs through the point, which looks reground.

A rather horrid composite recently went through auction but that belongs in a separate discussion.


Jim McDougall 9th September 2015 05:58 PM

Thanks Glen, I was hoping you would enter on this as your knowledge on these American swords is of course well established here. A similar example appears on p.212 of Peterson, "Silver Hilted Swords" in "The American Sword".

broadaxe 11th September 2015 01:23 PM

I used to have the same sword. It is a british 'coutau' style, made by Wilkisnson during the last decades (before they shut off the gates of course), as it was signed with the crest of queen Elizabeth II. Probably to commemorate an occasion of some sort. The grip was made of imitation ivory and all the metal parts were of silver plated grey metal.

Hotspur 11th September 2015 03:31 PM

Spot on!

Iliad 12th September 2015 09:04 PM

Sword for ID
Thanks, guys,
I now know what I have. Very grateful for your assistance.

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