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galvano 10th March 2006 09:17 PM

persian shamshir ???
 
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ariel 10th March 2006 09:23 PM

What a beautiful blade! It needs to be etched: I hope it is wootz.
And the pommel appears to be at the right angle to the handle(Likely, Persian).I am rarely gushing, but this blade caught my eye.Elegant, tasteful and high quality.
Congratulations!

Rivkin 10th March 2006 10:08 PM

Don't know much about persian stuff - still waiting for Manoucher's book to come out. Imho it's etched therefore it is probably XIXth century ?

ariel 10th March 2006 10:14 PM

You think these cartouches are etched? You do not mean acid-etched, do you?

ham 10th March 2006 10:27 PM

If Rivkin means acid-etched, he's right. There may be a little hand chiselling around the borders, hard to tell from the pics. But it is predominantly etched.
This sword started life a simple fighting weapon in Afghanistan or N. India c. 1850, given the form of the hilt. It was embellished later, perhaps around the turn of the century, using the etching technique. This is evident from the differing profiles of the upper and lower edges of the guard. Note that on the edge nearest the blade, the langet has been winnowed to the thickness of a toothpick. The upper side retains its original form. Compare the outline of the etched panel, top and bottom-- note that it differs, meaning the etching was done after the guard was reshaped.

A handsome example, don't see shamshirs around much anymore.

Ham


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