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-   -   The Dresden MONK'S GUN - a MYTH Revisited, and Finally CORRECTLY DATED: ca. 1525-30! (http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=19033)

Raf 16th October 2017 06:47 PM

A myth revisited ?
 
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Marcus den toom 17th October 2017 11:42 AM

Sorry to burst the bubble, but this person makes forgeries for ebay. :shrug:
He sells haquebuts poleguns etc as well.
The fact that this piece is:
-so well preserved after a odd 500 years
-only 10 cm in to the earth with "fresh" leaves covering the piece
-the fact he knows what this is for an "amateur"
-the real Monk's gun is just a curio, not a standard firearm of the time and finding another one in the earth like this is more than curious.....

Still a fun display and interesting if it where in "new" condition.

fernando 17th October 2017 12:02 PM

No fun for me; an hoax is always an hoax, no matter the context.
Many people may (are) deceived with this crap.
... Even Alexander, for one, has hesitated.

Marcus den toom 17th October 2017 12:15 PM

You are absolutely right Nando. even the best are sometimes decieved we all have that experience :(

If you are not sure about an item always ask for clear pictures with daylight to see patina, structure, how it was made etc. Or even better see it in person if it is possible.

Andi 17th October 2017 05:16 PM

I would not call the finder of the object in the film as an amateur archaeologist. It is probably a treasure hunter. Real (amateur) archaeologist will not only look and pull out metal objects, they will also look for other objects connected with the find e.g. for organic remains. For me the find is a hoax.

fernando 17th October 2017 06:02 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Andi
... For me the find is a hoax.

You are right in that this is not a finding; it was the hoaxer who hid the object in there. Just a staging to deceive the unwary.


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