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Multumesc 9th March 2014 12:57 PM

A sword
 
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Gentlemen, what kind of sword is this? It is old? :shrug: Thank you very much. :)

fernando 9th March 2014 01:36 PM

This is an easy one ;)

Austro-Hungarian Model 1869 cavalry trooper's sword & Kavalleriesäbel M 69.This sword was adopted for service in 1869 by the cavalry regiments of the Austro-Hungarian Army.
A sword model that lasted until the first quarter 20th century, with its plastic hilt.

Martin Lubojacky 12th March 2014 10:29 AM

Hi Fernando and multumesc,

This is not Austrian cavalry sabre model 1869. There is difference as far as the grip. handguard and scabbard are concerned.
The blade is, of course, Austrian, also the handguard could be - maybe from the model 1877.

The whole unit is strange due to Austrian blade used ...

Regards,

Martin

fernando 12th March 2014 10:48 AM

:o

Multumesc 13th March 2014 02:26 PM

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We visited a military museum and saw several models of swords Austro-Hungarian and Romanian.Among them was my sword model.The sword is a 19th century model.I think it's kind of sword was commissioned by Romania to be imported from the Austro-Hungarian Empire.In these countries have entered WW1 conflicted in 1916 and trade has not occurred.Below are pictures of my sword and museum. What do you think? :)

Multumesc 13th March 2014 03:12 PM

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On a site I found images of this type of sword with the following dimensions that correspond with my sword.It is described as ,,Austro-Hungarian Model 1869 cavalry trooper's sword & Kavalleriesäbel M 69, with scabbard''What do you think about it, gentlemen? :) These are the dimensions of the sword on the site: ,,Hilt: plastic
Sword and Scabbard: steel

Dimensions

Overall: Length 997 mm
Sword: Length 958 mm
Blade: Length 814 mm
Blade: Width 28 mm
Guard: Width 140 mm
Guard: Depth 40 mm
Hilt: Length 149 mm
Hilt: Width 46 mm
Hilt: Depth 26 mm
Scabbard: Length 847 mm
Scabbard: Width 38 mm
Scabbard: Depth 22 mm



FULL NAME: Austro-Hungarian Model 1869 cavalry trooper's sword & Kavalleriesäbel M 69, with scabbard
SIMPLE NAME: edged weapon with accessory

Creator

E D Jung, Vienna''

Martin Lubojacky 14th March 2014 09:09 AM

Hi multumesc,

Please, which site is this ????? Such weapon is not mentioned in my "Sabres of Habsburk Monarchy , 16th - 20th century" by Konopisky .......... (There are several variations of model 1989, but everything very different in comparision with your oiece).
Thanks,
Martin

Multumesc 14th March 2014 11:14 AM

Did you mean 1989 or 1889?? :shrug: The site is called "Imperial War Museums" or put directly http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/30003699 with copy paste. I think it is a rare model of the sword. :shrug: :) I think this model was imported only by Romania until 1916. ;)

Martin Lubojacky 14th March 2014 04:17 PM

Hi multumesc and sorry for mistake. I meant 1869. I will sen you scans of pictures of AH cavalry M69 sabres on Monday.
Regards,
Martin

Martin Lubojacky 16th March 2014 07:50 PM

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Hi multumesc,
I am enclosing basic characteristics of the Austro-Hungarian M69 (I am afraid they are wrong as far as the site is concerned an I will ask Prague army museum for standpoint).
Regards,
Martin


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