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Alexander 13th March 2012 03:52 PM

CAVALRY SWORD M1796
 
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Dear friends. I want to ask you:
1. What date of manufacture of this sword?
2. Whether it is possible to learn exact date of manufacturing?
3. Whether it is possible to learn in what a shelf the officer served?
Respect, Alexander.

Alexander 13th March 2012 03:54 PM

sword
 
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Cathey 13th March 2012 10:49 PM

What is the makers name can not read it clearly because of the flash we may be able to narrow down date of production from maker data base
Cheers Cathey @Rex

fernando 14th March 2012 09:22 PM

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Couldn't the inscription be that of the Dublin Regiment where the sword served and not the maker's name? :o
Isn't one of the blade decorations the Irish green harp symbol ?

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fernando 14th March 2012 10:51 PM

I would better correct myself :o .
After some browsing, i realize the name in the blade is READ and certainly that of the sword maker. I have read that they used the Irish harp in their decoration.
There were more than one Read making swords in the same period in Dublin.
A certain "Family Read" is mentioned, with shop in Parliament street but, apart from Thomas, other family members are not so easily spotted.
There was also another Read in Dublin, with premises in College Green, who was considered one of the best. His name was John and, unless he used the Latin style, which i doubt, is no match for the initial I.
Probably Cathey has (Irish) sword makers directories ?

Cathey 14th March 2012 11:01 PM

Ireland Dublin Read, Edward 1746
Ireland Dublin Read, Edward 1776 Skinner's Row
Ireland Dublin Read, Esther 1777 1785 Skinner's Row
Ireland Dublin Read, James 1718 1744
Ireland Dublin Read, John 1740 1763 Crane Lane
Ireland Dublin Read, John 1781 4 Parliament St
Ireland Dublin Read, John 1787 1795 Skinner's Row
Ireland Dublin Read, John 1796 1817 8 College Green
England Portsmouth Read, John 1805 1830 15 Charlotte Row
Ireland Dublin Read, John & Sons 1819 1833 8 College Green
Ireland Dublin Read, Thomas 1785 1806 4 Parliament St
Ireland Dublin Read, Thomas, & Co. 1808 1967 4 Parliament St
cheers rex and cathey

fernando 14th March 2012 11:16 PM

Great ... and amazing; no first name commencing with an I :confused: . Could it be Ioannes Read ? :shrug:

Amuk Murugul 15th March 2012 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by fernando
Great ... and amazing; no first name commencing with an I :confused: . Could it be Ioannes Read ? :shrug:

Hullo everybody:)

..... Similar to my thoughts. As I understand it, the capital 'J' did not enter the Roman Alphabet 'til about the mid 1700s. The capital letter 'I' was used in its stead. So, this would narrow it down to two possibilities on the list provided.

Alexander, хорошо удачи мой друг !

Sawubona 11th April 2012 01:38 AM

I think I might have missed something, but I would read "Ioannes " as "Johannes" (AKA "John") as well. That seems to me to make it one of five makers named John Read in Dublin (or at least five addresses in Dublin). It does seem as though at least one , at least, "John Read" moved his factory about a bit in Dublin.

Evgeny_K 14th April 2012 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Alexander
Dear friends. I want to ask you:
1. What date of manufacture of this sword?
2. Whether it is possible to learn exact date of manufacturing?
3. Whether it is possible to learn in what a shelf the officer served?
Respect, Alexander.


Hello, Alexander!
It's not possible to point the exact date of manufacture. Only a rough period of time .
Sword doesn't has any regimental letters engraved, so there is only one answer on your question # 3 - NO.
I suggest that this sword belonged to yeomanry officer (sword grips made of ivory).


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