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Flavio 29th February 2012 02:14 PM

Another sudanese arm dagger
 
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Just to show you :)

Edster 1st March 2012 12:34 AM

Flavio,

Really nice arm dagger. Much better blade than usual. My guess its from Sennar or environs. Probably mid-20th Century.

Congratulations,
Ed

TVV 1st March 2012 12:57 AM

Flavio, nice dagger. I really like the subtle shape of the hilt terminals, and it is impressive that 3 out of 4 have survived intact.
Regards,
Teodor

Dom 1st March 2012 02:32 AM

just to tell you, thank you Flavio
I'm every time very pleased when I watch a quality weapon
and this Sudanese arm dagger is splendid

à +

Dom

Flavio 1st March 2012 10:39 AM

Thank you all :)

Edster, I think that is a little more older than mid 20th century, at least early 20th century, the patination and the nice construction let me think so, but if you have more clues I'd like to know which are so the next time I will see carefully to catch an older example :)

Thank you

Lew 1st March 2012 11:39 AM

Flavio my friend that is one sweet arm dagger :). Very fine quality and as far as age goes I would say 1890s-1920 :cool:

Congrats

Lew

Flavio 1st March 2012 11:51 AM

Hey Lew!!!!! :) :) :)

It's passed long time from my last sudanese arm dagger, but as you can see I try to add something new from time to time and the target is always to reach your collection ;) :D

All the best

Edster 2nd March 2012 12:42 AM

My only reason for a later date is the stamp design. More "art" focus than a religious inscription as when the Mahdiya was still a living memory. But then again I wouldn't go against Lew's expertise. Regardless, it still a superior piece.

Ed

Lew 2nd March 2012 03:18 AM

Edster

The markings on the blade are a variation of the battle of Omdurman/Khartoum This is definately that style dagger from the late 1890s through 1918 or there about. The workmanship and fine quality are apparent. The daggers that were produced during WW2-1950s were of a lesser quality usually there were made by using a forging die and hot pressed to create the fullers.


http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...udanese+dagger



http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...udanese+dagger

Look at number the number 6 post.

Lew

Edster 2nd March 2012 11:22 PM

Lew,

Thanks for the explanation. So much to learn.

Best,
Ed

Sajen 3rd March 2012 12:00 AM

Hi Flavio,

very nice arm dagger, like the patina and the markings at the very good worked blade! :)

Regards,

Detlef

Flavio 3rd March 2012 10:03 AM

Thank you Detlef :)

David R 4th March 2012 12:35 AM

My friend Max ( ex District Comm 1920's) said that the old Mahdist vets had their knives/daggers marked at the end in a distinctive way, proud of their devotion in the war. Anyone got a contribution to this.

Lew 4th March 2012 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David R
My friend Max ( ex District Comm 1920's) said that the old Mahdist vets had their knives/daggers marked at the end in a distinctive way, proud of their devotion in the war. Anyone got a contribution to this.

David

I personally never heard of this practice but maybe Jim can shed some light on this subject :shrug: .


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