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Aurangzeb 15th October 2005 11:59 PM

Choora,kukri,gaucho knife, and tunisian dagger
 
Hello All!

I just picked these four daggers off Ebay. I finally got a metal sheath choora and a Tunisian dagger! Comments are welcome.

Mark...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWN%3AIT&rd=1

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWN%3AIT&rd=1

ariel 16th October 2005 03:40 AM

Other than seller's say-so, what makes it specifically Tunisian rather than more general (and nebulous) "North African"?

Aurangzeb 16th October 2005 05:42 AM

Hello Ariel!

Well, Nort African is probably a better description it roughly resembles a Tunisian dagger that I saw on Oriental-Arms but it might be from Morocco, Algeria; or Tunisia. Once I find a link on Oriental-Arms I will post the link. Of course a little I hope so never hurts.

P.S.- It slightly also resembles a Flissa, until I get it and can examine it and post better pictures, I can't be sure. i take what most sellers say with a grain of sand! :D

Mark...

TVV 16th October 2005 06:00 AM

Aurangzeb, in this case the seller is one of the respected forum members here, and I personally have no reason to doubt his judgement. Of course, it is always great to know not only where a certain piece is attributed to, but also why there exactly.
Regards,
Teodor

ariel 16th October 2005 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TVV
Aurangzeb, in this case the seller is one of the respected forum members here, and I personally have no reason to doubt his judgement. Of course, it is always great to know not only where a certain piece is attributed to, but also why there exactly.
Regards,
Teodor

I am not implying any malicious intent; just interested whether there are specific distinctions between Tunisian and, say, Libyan daggers.

Aurangzeb 16th October 2005 06:36 PM

This is great, this means that I don't have to beat my brains out trying to find where it came from. This is wonderful news that it is Tunisian and that the seller is a forum member so I can trust their judgement! :) I hope he will notice this tread and say why it is Tunisian.

Chris Evans 18th October 2005 08:54 AM

Hi Aurangzeb,

If you could post some better photos of that Gaucho's knife, including its blade length and details of any brand or logo, I may be able to dig up something on it.

Cheers
Chris

Aurangzeb 18th October 2005 05:35 PM

Hello Chris!

Will do as soon as it arrive in the mail. :)

Mark...

eftihis 19th October 2005 09:34 AM

It was bought from Tunisia!
 
Dear forum members,
Maybe i should reply regarding this dagger. It is not a matter of judgment, and i certainly do not think that state something as a "tunisian" gives more value. It is simple where it was bought from (in the 70s ) by the guy that gave it to me!
By the way, i am currently overseas and i didnt manage to send the package yet! Please be a little patient!
Regards to all!

Aurangzeb 19th October 2005 06:54 PM

Hello Eftihis!

That clears that up, I wish all the daggers I bought had that kind of certanty from where thaey came from! :D I have a great deal of patience Eftihis, thankfully you told me your overseas there where some sellers I bought from who never told me anything. Thanks for informing me of where the Tunisian dagger came from and that you are overseas. :)

Mark...

P.S.-Is the Tunisian dagger 19th. century?

Aurangzeb 9th November 2005 02:08 AM

Hello All!

I just got them today, I am exteamly pleased with them all but especially the Tunisian dagger. I am curious how whould this dagger be worn?Is there a specific name for this type of dagger?

Mark...

ariel 9th November 2005 02:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aurangzeb
Hello All!

I just got them today, I am exteamly pleased with them all but especially the Tunisian dagger. I am curious how whould this dagger be worn?Is there a specific name for this type of dagger?

Mark...

That's exactly what I meant! We know these daggers under a generic name "Khodmi", but I wonder whether they call it differently in different N. African countries and whether there are some specific features distinguishing one locality from another. After all, Indonesian/Philippino weapons can be pinpointed to a particular island, tribe and often village. Why not N. African?
Any ideas?

Aurangzeb 10th November 2005 10:59 PM

It remids me slightly of a flyssa.

Rick 10th November 2005 11:22 PM

I think it may be some form of a kard .
It's so beat up though that it's hard to tell .
How about you take some better pictures Mark .
This thread has been around so long they're going to disappear from eBay soon .

Aurangzeb 21st November 2005 02:47 AM

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Hello Everyone !

As requested attached are some pix of my Tunisian dagger. The blade shows some flyssa-like influence and the the hilt exhibits Yataghan/Ottoman influence. As always, any comments are most welcome !

Sincerely,

Mark....

Aurangzeb 23rd November 2005 01:53 AM

A kard also seems likely, I did not know about North African kards or that kards chould be curved.

Aurangzeb 27th April 2006 04:27 AM

Hello All!

I have been doing a great seal of looking into the Tunisian dagger and I still cannot decide wheather it is a flyssa or kard. But the most persisting question to me is is this knife "Berber" or "Arab" for though it roughly takes the form of a berber flyssa very little of Tunisia's population defines themselves as Berber. But I never heard of a Arab Flyssa only a Berber Flyssa.
Any help whould be welcome.

Mark...

Aurangzeb 30th April 2006 04:15 AM

No New Opinions?? :(

Ian 30th April 2006 06:15 AM

Mark:

The links have expired on eBay. Do you have pictures you can post so we can remember what these knives are?

Ian

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aurangzeb
Hello All!

I just picked these four daggers off Ebay. I finally got a metal sheath choora and a Tunisian dagger! Comments are welcome.

Mark...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWN%3AIT&rd=1

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWN%3AIT&rd=1



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