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erikscollectables 2nd November 2010 07:05 PM

Arabic Translation request (Dagger ID'd)
 
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The Dagger has been ID'd by Lew (thanks!) - I am still looking for help on the text in the blade. Regards, Erik

This dagger arrived in the mail today.

It came with some other items from an old Dutch collection of blades.
Mainly Indonesian but also some others (African and others) - collected before 1940. So far I have been able to buy 9 items.

This one is a riddle to me.
I have no idea what it is - so please help me here!
There seem to be markings on the blade and also an inscription (maybe upside down?)

All info welcome!

Regards, Erik

Lew 2nd November 2010 07:37 PM

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Erik
Yours is a Sudanese arm dagger circa 1898 probably from Omdurman. Here is it's close cousin.


Lew

erikscollectables 2nd November 2010 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Lew
Erik
Yours is a Sudanese arm dagger circa 1898 probably from Omdurman. Here is it's close cousin.
Lew

Lew thank you very much for this info. The sheath on yours looks also great. Unfortunatley no sheaths were kept in this collection - alle blades come without a sheath....

Is this the type of weapon that was common in that period?

Regards, Erik

Lew 2nd November 2010 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by erikscollectables
Lew thank you very much for this info. The sheath on yours looks also great. Unfortunatley no sheaths were kept in this collection - alle blades come without a sheath....

Is this the type of weapon that was common in that period?

Regards, Erik

Yes it was quite common but yours is of higher quality. These arm daggers are still being produced in the Sudan but are of crappy quality.

Battara 2nd November 2010 11:21 PM

Usually I am not into African, but both of your pieces are great examples!

erikscollectables 3rd November 2010 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Battara
Usually I am not into African, but both of your pieces are great examples!

Me too - I limit the collection to North Sumatra even - this one sneaked in :D Erik

Atlantia 3rd November 2010 10:33 PM

Both very posh examples! Seldom seen sadly. Thanks for sharing :)

Dom 6th November 2010 07:32 PM

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The Dagger has been ID'd by Lew (thanks!) - I am still looking for help on the text in the blade. Regards, Erik

Hi Erik

two beautifull daggers :D
one has the privilege of a dedicace ... in Arabic, and a date :p

MILK LAK SOLEIMAN either (like if the blacksmith was giving that dagger to his owner) it's YOUR OWN SOLEIMAN

1270 either 1853

best regards

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Dom


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