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CharlesS 28th February 2010 03:25 PM

An Unusual Moro Barong/Barung....any ideas??
 
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This is a relatively late Moro barong, but very elegant and unique with its elongated blade, lime filled carving, and MOP inlays. The sword is 28 inches overall, with a 22 inch blade that is 2 inches at its widest.

The blade seems to be suffering from an identity crisis as it is very awkward to handle. It seems not be able to decide if it's a cleaver-like traditional barong/barung, or a stabber/slasher type, more like a N. Philippines talibon. The blade puts a lot of pressure on the hilt and the enclosed tang, making it very cumbersome to handle.

It shows it has certainly seen age, wear and tear, and handling, but I think it was exclusively a "looker".

Anybody think it may be an attempt to "marry" Moro and northern styles??

Thanks in advance for any ideas or input!

Battara 28th February 2010 04:01 PM

I am told this is a sipput barong:

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ghlight=sipput

So far all the examples I have seen are of a late date, perhaps WWII.

Bill 28th February 2010 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by CharlesS

The blade seems to be suffering from an identity crisis as it is very awkward to handle. It seems not be able to decide if it's a cleaver-like traditional barong/barung, or a stabber/slasher type, more like a N. Philippines talibon. The blade puts a lot of pressure on the hilt and the enclosed tang, making it very cumbersome to handle.

It'd be great if someone who has trained with the barung would comment.
I've got some older 16"+ & a couple of 22" blades & at first I wondered if these were developed to use, in part, as a stabbing weapon. As you note, that is cumbersome to do. Although someone may train for a long time with the barung; I'm confident that the kris needs considerably more training then the barung to be effective.
The old P.I. Soldier I talked to, most feared the kris & dismissed the barung. He stated no one ever survived the kris & everyone survived the barung. He stated the barung victims could be stitched in the field but there was nothing that could be done for the kris wounds. It would seem to be clear; a high-risk/suicide charge against armed men, several inches of steel matters.
The barung seems like a weapon best suited as boat protection or boarding, dense brush fighting or daily defense carry.
One of my 22" came from a WW2 vet that claimed he got it in 1945. So they were there for at least the Japanese.
My guess is, their main purpose was for a effective slashing weapon in a high-risk/suicide attack for a young man that didn't need years of training.

CharlesS 28th February 2010 08:32 PM

Thanks for the link Battara.

I might add that this one has a real silver or high content silver alloy ferrule. remember when we saw it together it was tarnished black, but I polished it just to see what I had.

Battara 28th February 2010 10:33 PM

Not surprised at all. Good.


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