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Michel 26th September 2009 10:52 AM

Kampilan ?
 
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During my last relocation, the grip of this micro Philipino weapon was lost.
It is part of the attached plate showing several type of Philipino weapons.
Is this micro weapon a kampilan ?
Is the grip the right one ?
I want to reproduce this very small grip.
The total blade length is 14 cm.
Thanks for your help.
I think Battara could very easily answer my questions et correct me.
Thanks a lot
Regards
Michel

Rick 26th September 2009 07:25 PM

A nice older display .
The handles are bone ?
I think it's someone's interpretation of a Kampilan .
Interesting, having a Jawa hilted blade as a center piece in this otherwise Philippine display . :confused:

kronckew 26th September 2009 07:38 PM

http://www.traditionalfilipinoweapon...mages/Utak.jpg

Linky for other shapes

some are more 'traditional' than others there so caveat emptor.

Maurice 26th September 2009 07:39 PM

And the "handle" of the little kampy should be fitted the other way, logically.:)

Battara 27th September 2009 03:16 AM

It should be a kampilan hilt, Rick may have a point that it might be an interpretation.

Michel 27th September 2009 04:23 PM

Kampilan
 
Thanks to all of you.
Rick: Yes the handles are in bones except the one at 10 o'clock, the Jawa keris in the middle and the keris Moro at 7 o'clock.
I am responsible for this strange combination (all philipino blades with one jawa keris) as when I found these blades they were all wrapped in a piece of paper. They were obviously all coming from the same source and the jawa blade and the Moro Keris had no grip. So I made these handles and the display.
Thanks for the bringing in the idea of "interpretation" of a kampilan. I think that you are right. As I have searched a similar blade but could not find one having this little bump at the end of the blade. The interpretation of the handle will give me also more freedom for the handle to be made.
Thanks Kronkckew for the many shapes of philipino blades shown, with their names.

Thank you Battara for the confirmation of Rick's interpretation. I think I will make a real kampilan type of handle, in wood and not in bone or Tagua nut.
Have you ever seen a kampilan hilt in Ivory ?
What do you think : dark hard wood can do the job ?

To insert the hairs in a 40 millimeter long and only 2-3 mm thick handle will be tricky. Any suggestions ?

Regards

Michel

Battara 27th September 2009 09:49 PM

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First, dark wood would work, but bone would match the others. Just Inscribe the "hair" into the bone.

Second, here is the hilt of my ivory kampilan. They are insanely rare, but they do exist (there is also one in the PI National Museum).

Michel 27th September 2009 10:17 PM

Kampilan
 
Thank you Battara
Michel

Rick 27th September 2009 11:45 PM

Hopefully you will have enough tang to acommodate both guard and pommel .

Maybe it should be carved from 1 piece and the separation line cut in and filled with ink . :)

Michel 28th September 2009 10:29 AM

Well Rick,
Your remark is a very valid one
That tang is really short but this is not a real kampilan that will be utilized. I can glue the tang inside the pommel and I think, I could even get rid of the metallic guard. Kampilans have a very special type of guard, which is very different than the one on my miniature kampilan and I will not try to reproduce it. I will follow your suggestion and carve it in one or two pieces. May be I can copy Battara's one !
Regards
Michel


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