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Tatyana Dianova 8th July 2011 09:11 PM

A Pala for comment and translation
 
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A good friend of mine has asked me to show this Pala on the Forum. Any comments and especially translation :) will be much appreciated.

Atlantia 8th July 2011 09:25 PM

Ello Tatyana,

Tell you friend that they can be my friend too ;)

Best
Gene

Battara 8th July 2011 09:32 PM

Nice Ottoman Turkish pala. Can't contribute much except that I think I see at least a couple of bismallah (names of God) and maybe a Quranic verse or two on the blade. Great condition. I also see some evidence of wootz. A great piece.

Atlantia 8th July 2011 11:04 PM

P.S.

Looks like a date of 1236 -1821.

Dom 9th July 2011 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Atlantia
Looks like a date of 1236 -1821.

yes I confirm the date :D

to "Tatyana Dianova"

- too late today, to start a translation
- it's time to sleep, for us
- tomorrow, and after tomorow, may be not too much available
also be patient, in case of nobody else did it, it will be done later
don't be worry

absolutely beautiful Turkish Pala

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Dom

Tatyana Dianova 9th July 2011 09:13 PM

Yes, it is a very nice sword and it seems to have a Wootz blade (from pictures at least, I haven't seen it in person...)
Dom: what will we (on the Forum) do without your Arabic translations? :) But let it be fun for you and not a stress :)

katana 10th July 2011 12:53 AM

A Beauty :cool:


Regards David

Dom 10th July 2011 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Tatyana Dianova
t let it be fun for you and not a stress :)

Hi Tatyana
fortunately it's for the fun, otherwise ... I will be a runaway :p

I'm a little bite disappointed, a lot of religious invocations
and few I.D. but, let hope so, that what we have been unable to translate
will give us some other indications ;)

==> HERE WE ARE :D
PIC 1
YA MOFATA AL ARUAB EFTAR LANA BAB AL KHRAIR either WHO (God) IS OPENING ALL DOORS, OPEN TO US THE BEST DOOR

PIC 2
NASRUN MIN ALLAH WA FAT'HUN QAREEB WA BASHIR AL MU'AMINEEN either CLOSE VICTORY FROM ALLAH AND CLOSE CONQUEST, SO GIVE GLAD TIDINGS TO THE BELIEVERS


PIC 3
LA FATA ELA ALI LA SAIF ELA ZULFICAR either THERE IS NO YOUTH BUT ALI AND NO SWORD BUT ZULFICAR

PIC 4
first part (from right to left) until the sign / the language it's not Arabic, I guess that it's in Turkish
AMAL KARA SERAD DARUMI either MADE BY DARUMI SERAD KARA at evidence, this name it's not for an Arab ;)

PIC 5
1/3

YA MAALIK AL-MULK either THE MASTER OF THE KINGDOM (God)

2/3
MASH ALLAH either WHATEVER THE WILL OF GOD

3/3
TAWAKAL ALA ALLAH either I PUT MY TRUST IN GOD

PIC 6
1236 Hegira either 1820 Gregorian calendar
last lign, something is wrote, but we guess not in Arabic

if my Dear Friend pass by here, I mean "Zifir" may be he could be a great help, to correct, and to complete

regards

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Dom

Tatyana Dianova 10th July 2011 09:38 PM

Dom: thank you very much for taking your (and your family :) ) time and making a translation! I hope it was fun :p
P.S. YA MOFATA AL ARUAB EFTAR LANA BAB AL KHRAIR - I really loved this one :)

Dom 10th July 2011 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tatyana Dianova
Dom: thank you very much for taking your (and your family :) ) time and making a translation! I hope it was fun :p
P.S. YA MOFATA AL ARUAB EFTAR LANA BAB AL KHRAIR - I really loved this one :)

Thanks :D
the most complicated was the pic n°1,
it resist a little before that my wife has got the meaning

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Dom

Tatyana Dianova 11th July 2011 07:36 AM

This inscription is absolutely beautifully done, and it was quite a riddle (to read) I believe :)


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