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lemmythesmith 4th March 2009 09:39 PM

Meteoric Balinese Blog....
 
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Rick
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Lemmy, it would be interesting if you started a thread on this project and kept us updated.
David
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Yes, please!
Willem
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Yes, please!
Well gents, here's a sneak preview :p 19 inch blade of the usual construction-iron from all over, meteorites, horseshoes, stuff I've found lying around waiting for the enterprising smith to pick up.............I have it all written down with weights etc, more of that later.
I don't have much of this blade's early days but there is a picture of one of the meteorites (Campo Del Cielo 195g) and one of "block 3" before welding, 9 layers of iron and pure meteorite, there were four of these so 36 layers a side. There's some photos of the pamor drawn out ready to bend and insert steel, the blank ready to weld, the blade partially forged and fully forged. The selut progress is documented too (got a new camera!) Togog development to follow..... :D

lemmythesmith 4th March 2009 09:45 PM

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The full view and closeup of pamor.... :D

David 4th March 2009 09:49 PM

Oh Goodie!!! :D

Rick 4th March 2009 10:36 PM

Cowabunga Lemmy !!
David, don't you have an example of that dapur ? ;)

asomotif 4th March 2009 11:00 PM

Amazing to see this in progress. :eek:

The settings for the stones/glass on the selut, are they prefabricated ?

Nice dapur, I like it "simple" with no luks.

David 4th March 2009 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick
David, don't you have an example of that dapur ? ;)

Something similar perhaps...why, are you missing it? ;) :p :D

ganjawulung 5th March 2009 12:57 AM

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Bravo, Lemmy....

Magnifique garap. The dhapur, probably similar to these Javanese "PASUPATI". The one with pamor, was made by a Solonese keris maker Ki Sukamdi, but the kodokan is Maduran made...

GANJAWULUNG

Raden Usman Djogja 5th March 2009 12:41 PM

bravo....Lemmy!!!!

BluErf 5th March 2009 01:41 PM

Woohoo!!! :) Great job! :) I salute you, Lemmy!

Rick 5th March 2009 02:31 PM

Looking forward to the next episode, Lemmy . :D

lemmythesmith 5th March 2009 09:45 PM

Hi all, many thanks and glad you like it so far... :D

Willem, the settings are made from bearer so they are cut from strip, bent and soldered so you have a built in "ledge" for the stone to sit in. The stones are laboratory grown star rubies.

Ganjawulung, dapur is pasopati-in fact I studied both of your keris whilst making this one. The ganja is "wulung" too!

More to follow, hopefully this weekend (lots of togog pics to resize)

asomotif 6th March 2009 12:06 AM

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the settings are made from bearer so they are cut from strip, bent and soldered so you have a built in "ledge" for the stone to sit in
Thanks Lemmy !

Nothing the easy way.
Really looking forward to more pictures in due time.

kino 6th March 2009 03:40 AM

Nice...very nice!

Is there a Moro Kris in the future.

Newsteel 6th March 2009 05:26 AM

Not bad at all....

lemmythesmith 6th March 2009 10:46 PM

Hi Kino, a meteoric Moro kris-the thought had crossed my mind (together with a kampilan, barong, gunong etc :D)

karset 9th March 2009 08:21 AM

wow,,,nice lemmy

lemmythesmith 11th March 2009 11:06 PM

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Hi all, here's some pictures of the togog in various stages (well the front views anyway) his left foot is a little more developed since I took these snapshots....... :D

lemmythesmith 14th April 2009 09:24 PM

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Now with added face.... :D

drdavid 14th April 2009 10:39 PM

Wonderful work lemmy, great carving. What type of bone, and are you using only hand tools for this?
drd

asomotif 14th April 2009 11:43 PM

Wonderfull hilt !!!

How is the selut progressing ?

David 15th April 2009 03:10 AM

Lemmy, you are one very talented fellow! :)

Marcokeris 15th April 2009 05:54 AM

wonderfull work :eek: :) :)

lemmythesmith 15th April 2009 12:44 PM

Thanks all!! Thought you might like him! He's carved from a portion of a elephant tusk I bought many years ago, but it's only now I feel confidant enough to tackle such an ambitious project. I tend to "rough out" a carving with a dremel using burrs/small milling cutters, fine detail is added with various knives and scrapers, my favorite carving tool is a sghian dubh I made with a damascus blade which takes a wicked edge! I haven't done any more on the selut as yet, but I can feel an urge to do some silversmithing coming on.... :D (once the urge to make a tanto copying the work of Etchu Norishige goes away, but enough of my problems..... :rolleyes: )

ferrylaki 23rd April 2009 04:08 AM

bravo...very nice work

lemmythesmith 19th August 2009 10:20 PM

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Hi all, I've made a start on cutting the greneng :eek: I'm going to leave "as is" for a day or two then go back to it, needs a few more coats of looking at!! :D

Michel 21st August 2009 08:52 PM

A great job
 
Lemmy,
You are really doing a great job. Not only smithing but carving. I am very,very impressed. One question: in your last photos you show us the ganja, neatly adjusted to the blade but on the first and the last shots, you show the peksi (the flame) of the kris blade with an enlargement right after the ganja. I can understand why you did that (to block the ganja in its place), but I cannot see how you realized it.
Can you explain ?

Thanks and really "bravo" it is a superb work.
Michel

I think I found the way: your peksi is not part of the blade but is screwed in the thickness of the blade ! Right or wrong ? :)

A. G. Maisey 22nd August 2009 12:08 AM

In Javanese the word for a keris tang is "pesi".

The word "peksi" means "bird". It has the same meaning in krama as does "manuk" in ngoko.

The word "pesi" has the alternate meaning of "bird", but the word "peksi" has only one meaning, and that is "bird".

Rick 22nd August 2009 12:52 AM

Should I be looking for a ron dha in a Bali piece ??
Or no ?

A. G. Maisey 22nd August 2009 02:32 AM

Yes Rick.

If a Balinese blade has a greneng, that greneng should show ron dha of a specific form.

I suspect that Lemmy has moved in this direction and perhaps when he completes the greneng he will have produced an acceptable ron dha.

There are other minor points where this blade does not conform to a Balinese standard, but I must emphasise that these are minor points, and I for one am not prepared to level criticism at Lemmy's effort.All the rough outlines are there, they just need to be refined and finished.

Rick 22nd August 2009 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey
Yes Rick.

If a Balinese blade has a greneng, that greneng should show ron dha of a specific form.

I suspect that Lemmy has moved in this direction and perhaps when he completes the greneng he will have produced an acceptable ron dha.

There are other minor points where this blade does not conform to a Balinese standard, but I must emphasise that these are minor points, and I for one am not prepared to level criticism at Lemmy's effort.All the rough outlines are there, they just need to be refined and finished.

Nor was I Alan; just satisfying my curiousity on that point . :)

Lemmy, you are indeed a prodigy . :D

Magnifique !!


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