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Anthony G. 31st October 2018 06:00 AM

Is this a Sumatra Keris?
 
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Is this a Sumatra Keris? Photo is enlarged but actual piece is small. About 16 inch in total length and slim. Bilah is thin.

Anthony G. 31st October 2018 06:07 AM

In addition to add, I got this Keris but unsure of origin as I am not familiar with Keris from Sumatra region. Do you think gonjo is later add on? This gonjo which has open design motif, 18th century? Could it be a Jawa Keris but again the Singa does not seems to be Jawa Singa origin, eye is spiral type.

Any views? Thank you

Jean 31st October 2018 09:32 AM

I saw this kris on a well-known commercial site, to me the blade itself seems old but the singa and ganja were probably recently made (different colour, pamor lines not matching, etc.), and the dress is nice but recent. A seller's montage? Of course other opinions are welcome.
Regards

Anthony G. 31st October 2018 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jean
I saw this kris on a well-known commercial site, to me the blade itself seems old but the singa and ganja were probably recently made (different colour, pamor lines not matching, etc.), and the dress is nice but recent. A seller's montage? Of course other opinions are welcome.
Regards

I have clarified with many experienced collectors and this is the conclusion:

This keris is made using old blade as base material. The Singa is not of Jawa origin but maybe Sumatra and ganja might be new addition.

Jean 31st October 2018 02:58 PM

Hello Anthony,
What is the source of this kris if you don't mind, a collector, or an auction, or a dealer? These Sumatra style scabbards are attractive, I bought similar pieces in the past and even recently ;)
Regards

Anthony G. 31st October 2018 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jean
Hello Anthony,
What is the source of this kris if you don't mind, a collector, or an auction, or a dealer? These Sumatra style scabbards are attractive, I bought similar pieces in the past and even recently ;)
Regards

Hi, dealer.

Paul B. 31st October 2018 03:30 PM

Maybe kinatah is missing or planned for the open-work ganja and creature?

Battara 31st October 2018 07:17 PM

Would the ganga have been gilded at one time?


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