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tanaruz 29th August 2023 10:13 AM
Lumad kris
 
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Hello friends,

Just arrived from Puerto Princesa, Palawan. A lumad (Palawan'on) kris.

OAL: 26.5 inches/ blade: 20.75 inches.

Enjoy and kind regards,

Yves

Note: the rope on the hilt (typical of Palawan'on and lumad style).

xasterix 29th August 2023 11:12 AM
I believe it's a Lumad-appropriated Moro kris. Probably Maguindanao-made, late 1800s. I had one exactly like that, it was provenanced from a Maguindanao lineage. Your kris might have just passed hands, been traded, or migrated, hence its most recent status as Lumad-owned. But it's Moro, no question about it, even the dress. The true-blue Lumad-made kris doesn't have that build; it doesn't even have a gangya, and the dress is non-Moro.

Sajen 30th August 2023 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by xasterix (Post 284273)
The true-blue Lumad-made kris doesn't have that build; it doesn't even have a gangya, and the dress is non-Moro.
Hello Ray,

Do you mean such a "kris"?

Regards,
Detlef

xasterix 30th August 2023 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Sajen (Post 284290)
Hello Ray,

Do you mean such a "kris"?

Regards,
Detlef
Halloo Detlef! Yes, that one exactly :D

Gavin Nugent 4th September 2023 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by xasterix (Post 284273)
I believe it's a Lumad-appropriated Moro kris. Probably Maguindanao-made, late 1800s. I had one exactly like that, it was provenanced from a Maguindanao lineage. Your kris might have just passed hands, been traded, or migrated, hence its most recent status as Lumad-owned. But it's Moro, no question about it, even the dress. The true-blue Lumad-made kris doesn't have that build; it doesn't even have a gangya, and the dress is non-Moro.
Is this sampir, if that's the right word to use in this context, isn't this style known to Jolo too?

Jerseyman 4th September 2023 03:17 PM
Another Lumad Kris
 
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I'm guessing this is also a Lumad kris?

I'll dig it out soon and post it with better pictures and dimensions.

Sajen 4th September 2023 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Jerseyman (Post 284438)
I'm guessing this is also a Lumad kris?
Hello Philip,

short answer: yes!:)

Regards,
Detlef

kino 4th September 2023 07:27 PM
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Under Cato’s classification, a Maranao blade with a Lumad hilt.

Battara 5th September 2023 01:03 AM
Not unusual to have a Moro blade in Lumad fittings.

Better pictures would be helpful.


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