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mariusgmioc 24th March 2020 12:23 PM

Turkish (?) hancer for translation & comments
 
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Another type of hancer I have in my collection, that I would like to learn more about.

It is quite large (55.5 cm / 21.9") and has a possibly wootz blade (it needs cleaning and etching to be sure).

All fittings are silver and the scabbard (which I believe is the original) is marked with a Turgha, which make me believe it is of Turkish manufacture.

Maybe we can learn more about the blade if Kwiatek will be able to translate the writing. :shrug:

Kubur 24th March 2020 07:57 PM

My comment is very basic: you have a beautiful collection...

:)

Battara 25th March 2020 02:39 AM

I've always liked this form of Ottoman jambiya, with all of the repousse silver, and often with wootz blade.

Kubur 25th March 2020 08:54 AM

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I have another one of these monsters (over 45cm). Slightly different with a slender hilt covered with koftgari.

I think this dagger is closest to the walrus one that you posted previously.

Hombre 25th March 2020 02:37 PM

Amazing daggers, guys!
Thanks for sharing!

/Stefan

kronckew 25th March 2020 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mariusgmioc
...and has a possibly wootz blade (it needs cleaning and etching to be sure).
...

Very Nice Indeed! - I'd bet my last dollar that it's wootz. It has the look...

⁽ ᴵ ᵈᵒⁿ'ᵗ ʰᵃᵛᵉ ᵃⁿʸ ᵈᵒˡˡᵃʳˢ ˡᵉᶠᵗ ⁻ ᵗʰᵉ ᵉˣ ᵍᵒᵗ 'ᵉᵐ ᵃˡˡ ⁾

Kubur 25th March 2020 09:35 PM

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Same hilt, different blade, from an Ottoman court dagger (not mine unfortunately)

:(

mariusgmioc 31st March 2020 05:31 PM

Still no translation? Kwiatek are you there?
:shrug:

kwiatek 14th April 2020 10:27 AM

Sorry for delay, the inscriptions don't read properly. It's possible to give suggestions for certain words, such as عز ('Glory') and اقبال ('Fortune'), but on the whole these words belong to an earlier repertoire of inscriptions and I doubt that's what they are. In one place it looks like تبارك الله ('blessed is God'). I doubt very much the person making/copying these inscriptions knew what the words meant

mariusgmioc 14th April 2020 12:00 PM

Very interesting!

So it appears the script was added mainly for its decorative value.

Thank you very much!


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