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ariel 8th April 2005 03:43 PM

Polish sword?
 
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1
I do not think it is Polish. Looks like a reasonably new Indian/Persian item.
What do you think?

Jens Nordlunde 8th April 2005 05:13 PM

Yes it looks like that to me too:(

Jens

wolviex 8th April 2005 06:33 PM

First of all there is no way it could be hussar's sabre. I think it's more 19th century then 18th. Decoration could be Polish but it could be from any other country as well.

Regards

Rick 8th April 2005 09:14 PM

Ariel
 
Hi Ariel , I don't mean to interrupt , but did you receive the Shashka pictures I emailed to you ?

Perkun 8th April 2005 09:19 PM

May be Polish made but I suspect is no more than 1 year old :D

ariel 9th April 2005 02:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick
Hi Ariel , I don't mean to interrupt , but did you receive the Shashka pictures I emailed to you ?

Yes, I did and many thanks!
Could you attach them to the thread about it?

Rick 9th April 2005 03:03 AM

Hi Ariel , you're very welcome ; I wanted to be sure that you had received them .
I'm not going to post them up as Artzi has promised us a full report with pictures when he receives it .

Radu Transylvanicus 15th April 2005 07:10 AM

If it is to criticise or discusse the details IMHO here they are:

The sword is uncharacteristically (but not impossibly ! ) flimsy for Eastearn European or Ottoman and would fall under the size specific to Indo-Persian notoriously thinner and smaller (that does not make them less lethal or their owners less of a man, alright :cool: )
The decoration has pronounced and obvious Islamic motifs, more or less the thugra and okir types, executed in a manner that remind me of a Pan-Caucasian manner (or Arabic, darn it , that be...) HEY, RIVKIN, any thoughts ?
I dont really think thats Polish, not even Ukrainian, Ruthenian or Cossack, maybe Tartar ?
ALL THAT IF THE SWORD IS LIKE HUSSARIA PERKUN says: ONE YEAR OLD ! than it really doesnt matter anymore ...

Jim McDougall 16th April 2005 03:01 AM

This does look like a 20th century decorative piece that seems like Rajasthan work, and likely is relatively recent. The hilt resembles Afghan shamshirs, which are seen with wood hilts in the latter 19th century very similar. The chowk motif en suite with the blade panel is quite contrary to the earlier weapons that this is intended to represent. While a very attractive and decorative item, this piece really has little to do with the Eastern European hussar sabres of earlier centuries.

Radu.....good to see you back!...thought the UFO's got ya!! :)

Best regards,
Jim

Rivkin 16th April 2005 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Radu Transylvanicus
HEY, RIVKIN, any thoughts ?

I'm afraid Ariel knows more about swords and shashkas than I do, but to me it's a modern piece, that even does not pretend to be old.


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