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ariel 6th March 2017 05:20 AM

Is this kilij real?
 
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It ended on E-Bay for ~$1250. Advertised as "antique... with possibly real silver crossguard"
I have a very uneasy feeling about it:
1. Wooden handle with no signs of usage and with reddish traces of wood stain in the incisions
2. The crossguard is extremely crude: I haven't seen real Ottoman or Iranian ones of such poor quality
3. My main concern is with the blade: it is pitted and patinated, but the "golden" inscriptions on top of all that crud are perfectly intact.

Overall, it looks to me like a very modern Syrian creation.

Am I being paranoid?

ALEX 6th March 2017 06:14 AM

Of course not real. It's being discussed here before. They started making them in Turkey circa early 21st Century:) Not a single part is antique here, nor gold or silver, not even "inlay" is real.

A.alnakkas 6th March 2017 06:16 AM

Made two days ago and antiqued yesterday

ALEX 6th March 2017 12:08 PM

Here is old discussion LINK I posted here 7 years ago.
Judging by closing amount, some bidders lacking awareness took the word "antique" seriously.. not a case of a lucky winner here.

sfenoid13 17th March 2017 08:42 PM

this has to be either form India or Syria, fake of course. In turkey I dont think make swords like these..there is no market for them with this type of calligraphy..in my opinion..

mariusgmioc 17th March 2017 11:29 PM

They make them in India. :cool:

A.alnakkas 18th March 2017 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by mariusgmioc
They make them in India. :cool:

Made in Syria prior to the revolution. The workshop supposedly moved to the Saudi Capital Riyadh. There is a great quantity of these in the Saudi antique market now.

YataganMan 18th March 2017 09:05 PM

Fake swords
 
These very cheaply produced Turkish Swords ??? were all made in Syria and the Turkish market was fıloded with the same.Initially going prices were 50 US dollars a piece but later such prices have risen to 000 s until the war break up in Syria.Some European Auction houses even put some of these in their catalogues whether knowingly or not as genuine.


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