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thinreadline 2nd April 2015 04:46 PM

North African dagger ?
 
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I have always thought this was a N African dagger , but wondered if any members could tell me a bit more about it such as its origin and name if it has a specific one.

Iain 2nd April 2015 05:37 PM

An interesting one. Pommel construction and style of a takouba, blade style of a jambiya. The general style makes me think of work from the Niger region. Afraid I can't say much more. Very much looks like a jambiya influenced design though.

I've seen a number with this general type of brass hilt with a variety of blade styles.

thinreadline 2nd April 2015 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Iain
An interesting one. Pommel construction and style of a takouba, blade style of a jambiya. The general style makes me think of work from the Niger region. Afraid I can't say much more. Very much looks like a jambiya influenced design though.

I've seen a number with this general type of brass hilt with a variety of blade styles.

Yes thank you Iain, I do agree , it does have a pommel much like a takouba , and indeed overall very like a jambiya in general form.

colin henshaw 2nd April 2015 06:14 PM

My guess would be the Somalia area, though the blade form is a bit different...

Martin Lubojacky 2nd April 2015 10:31 PM

I think this belongs to the group of dagers from Somalia or maybe better eastern Ethiopia (Ogaden).

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=18201

Regards,
Martin

thinreadline 2nd April 2015 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by colin henshaw
My guess would be the Somalia area, though the blade form is a bit different...

Even with that heavy brass grip Colin ?

thinreadline 2nd April 2015 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Martin Lubojacky
I think this belongs to the group of dagers from Somalia or maybe better eastern Ethiopia (Ogaden).

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=18201

Regards,
Martin

Yes I can see the similarities, but the grip is so distinctive and unlike Somalia or Ethiopia to me .

Kubur 2nd April 2015 11:05 PM

Well done Martin! You are absolutely right Somalia or Erythrea.

Iain 3rd April 2015 06:23 AM

I'd forgotten about those! Good ID Colin and Martin I think you are spot on.

thinreadline 3rd April 2015 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Iain
I'd forgotten about those! Good ID Colin and Martin I think you are spot on.


You chaps certainly know a lot more about this than I do , but do any of you have any pictures illustrating a similar hilt to that of my dagger ... it just looks so different to all those you cite. I agree the scabbard , the bolster and even the blade shape is very much allied to those illustrated , but the hilt seems so distinctive I would have thought it would indicate something .

Raymond 5th April 2015 03:21 AM

Arm Dagger - Sudan/Mahdi War?
 
The loop suggests that this is an "arm dagger". Eastern Africa Sudan etc).
See the painting (via google) "The flight of the Madhi after the Battle of Omdurman).


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