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francantolin 27th May 2017 07:29 AM

Gauntlets, German ?
 
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Hello,

What do you think of this model of gauntlets ?
German model ?
15th-16th century style ?
Originals or end 19th-early 20th copy ?

I'll post best pictures when I'll receive them.

A Senefelder 28th May 2017 01:19 PM

More pics of both inside and outside of these including the plates of the still intact thumb would be of great assistance. It appears that the cuff rivets have washers for holding the leathers for sewing the gloves in place which is good sign ( most all Victorian copies have simple blind rivets there to give the external appearance of this ).

francantolin 30th May 2017 10:28 PM

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Here some closest pictures,

seems quite old but how much ?...
DOES ANYBODY KNOW THIS STAMP-HALLMARK ?? ( Picture 1 )

Kind Regards !

CSinTX 31st May 2017 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by francantolin
DOES ANYBODY KNOW THIS STAMP-HALLMARK ??

Kind Regards !

Looks like one of the Nuremberg marks.

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=19437

francantolin 31st May 2017 09:04 PM

Hello, thank's a lot for the precious link about the Nuremberg marks !

Kind regards

A Senefelder 3rd June 2017 02:16 PM

Constructionally here there are a number of positives beyond the rivets with cut washers for securing the glove leathers at the cuffs. The surviving thumb plates, while having a replaces leather, have the proper flush rivets for securing it and the end plate reposed to look like a finger nail is a feature not normally seen on Victorian copies. I believe I can see light hammer marking on the inside surfaces of the gauntlet plates which is a more period feature vs. the bend and strike from the outside with the hammer more common in modern manufacture for gauntlets. There's a good chance these are original probably c.1490-1500 Milanese style. If they are older copies they are of the highest quality. Again this is based only on photos, having the items in hand may alter perspective.

A Senefelder 4th June 2017 12:17 AM

Would it be possible to get some close ups of the thumb on the opposite gauntlet as well? I think i'm picking up some slight differences in shape and dimensions, that some closer pics would help verify.

francantolin 4th June 2017 04:49 PM

Hello Senefelder,

Thank's a lot for all precious detailled comments !
I will take and post other pictures of the thumbs area.

Kind Regards !

Franco


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