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terry1956 21st October 2011 11:05 AM

pair of pistols by H Nock
 
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hi chaps, as a late brithday gift to myself I picked up a nice matched pair of pistols by H Nock. I have a few questions. the first being I know a little about H Nock and that he stopped trading in 1804 but can anyone please tell em a bit more about the man.
the second is these pistols are musket bored, so would it not be to out of line to say that the oficer who purchased these from new was a fighting officer with some money, this leads me onto the 3rd question, when new what price would these of been.
thanks michael

Matchlock 21st October 2011 02:02 PM

Hi Michael,

I would date your pistols closely to the 1790's.
For more on the maker please see

http://asoac.org/bulletins/88_wainright_nock.pdf

Best,
Michael

terry1956 21st October 2011 02:20 PM

thanks
 
Thanks for the link, interesting. michael

Matchlock 22nd October 2011 02:56 AM

Hi Michael,

Given the fact that your pair of Nock pistols is actually preserved in the virtually 'untouched' sate of condition that I assume telling from your pics I would just gently rub all the iron surfaces with olive oil. Please, in any case, leave the wooden surface alone.

And: I hope I'm not the only one to desire seeing better images - would that be possible? :)

Best, my namesake,
Michael

Matchlock 22nd October 2011 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by terry1956
this leads me onto the 3rd question, when new what price would these of been.
thanks michael

Oh Michael,

That of course is a really demanding question. ;)

I'll try and leaf thru my archives though. On the other hand, in order to put the 200 year price in a both reasonable and comparable relation to 21st c. market prices we would have to to learn a lot about the actual historic purchase power of 220 years ago ... Maybe some local economy historian could help you along with this ... :shrug:

Best,
Michael

terry1956 16th November 2011 10:33 AM

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thanks for that, but it was the price the first owner would of payed that i was interested in. I have a good collection of weapons and in the main they are british officers swords and pistols, and I am alway wondering how much they would of paid for these weapons when new, it just adds a bit more interest for me. michael

Atlantia 16th November 2011 11:27 AM

H. Nock was a very good maker. I've a small boxlock pocket pistol with sliding safety by Nock.
Nock pistols seem to have many notable uses. The 'volley gun' ducks-foot pistol used by the Royal navy is perhaps the most famous.
I've heard it said that the great Nelson himself (as a young officer) would lead the charge onto the French decks, charging forward with his Nock Pistol and sword!
A formidable opponent for sure.
Nock guns are of course relatively common as 'he' (his several workshops) were very well patronised and prolific, but the quality is always in my experience excellent!
Beautiful pair of pistols BTW!

Dmitry 16th November 2011 02:21 PM

Can you post photos of the locks and trigger guards, and the proof marks on the barrels? Thanks.

rickystl 16th November 2011 05:52 PM

Great looking set of pistols!! And wonderful condition!! Congrats. Rick.

terry1956 21st November 2011 09:31 PM

will post pics tomorrow, been away
 
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sorry for late reply been away, here are a few more pics, michael

Matchlock 21st November 2011 10:39 PM

Congrats, Michael,

Great condition and optimum original surface finish! :)

Best,
Michael

rickystl 23rd November 2011 02:33 PM

Wonderful, top condition pieces. Congrats!!! Rick.

terry1956 23rd November 2011 06:30 PM

thanks chaps
 
thanks chaps, yes they are nice, I am looking for a french pair to go along with them, michael


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