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Spunjer 5th December 2010 08:53 PM

Yet another Yat
 
not my field, but when i see beauty, it's hard to say no :) . here's the pride of the ottomans. not sure the origin of this yataghan, but whoever had this comissioned must be an influential fellow. handle is walrus ivory, sheath is silver and the blade has so much gold, you woulda thought it was made in el dorado. any comments regarding its origin, or any comments?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...r/IMAG0165.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...r/IMAG0169.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...r/IMAG0170.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...r/IMAG0176.jpg

Spunjer 5th December 2010 08:54 PM

more gold fever...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...r/IMAG0178.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...r/IMAG0187.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...r/IMAG0190.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...r/IMAG0174.jpg

David 5th December 2010 09:22 PM

Sweet! But i thought you were in "sell" mode these days... :)

Spunjer 5th December 2010 09:42 PM

yep, that's for sho...

but never got out of "trade" mode :D

David 5th December 2010 09:46 PM

I'd imagine you traded a bit for it... :)

TVV 5th December 2010 10:08 PM

Very beautiful yataghan, congratulations. Per Astvatsaturian, based on the bolster, this would fall into the Istanbul type. Her classification system is not absolute and there are some mistakes, but given the overall quality of this piece, I can completely imagine that this was indeed produced in the Ottoman capital for a person of significance. His name and maybe even the name of the maker are likely in the two panels on the left side of the blade.

Regards,
Teodor

David 5th December 2010 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TVV
His name and maybe even the name of the maker are likely in the two panels on the left side of the blade.

I think that mean's "It's time for my close-up Mr. DeMille..." ;)

Atlantia 5th December 2010 10:45 PM

"Yet another Yat"

You could hardly underplay that any more could you?
BEAUTIFUL!

Spunjer 6th December 2010 12:04 AM

2 Attachment(s)
here are the two blocks that has the info. one of them looks like it was scratched out on purpose, but hopefully still readable. i darkened it on purpose hoping it helps. the other one is very legible...

Spunjer 6th December 2010 12:18 AM

the handle, and more gold...


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...r/IMAG0183.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...r/IMAG0182.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...r/IMAG0181.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...r/IMAG0173.jpg

Battara 6th December 2010 02:45 AM

What a nice yat! Love the koftgari and silver scabbard.

So TVV you read Russian?

TVV 6th December 2010 06:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Battara
What a nice yat! Love the koftgari and silver scabbard.

So TVV you read Russian?

A little bit - I can understand pretty much everything, but I do not speak it, if this makes sense.

Teodor

Zifir 6th December 2010 06:53 PM

2 Attachment(s)
Hi,
Some parts of the second inscription are too much worn to be eligible, but this is my best guess.

Best,

RSWORD 6th December 2010 07:00 PM

That sure is a purty yat!

Spunjer 7th December 2010 01:40 AM

thanks for the translation, zifir! since the last figure is missing, we can just assume that the date would be between (hijiri calendar) 1220 to 1229, which would translate to gregorian calendar 1805 to 1813. is that correct?
as for the second phrase "sene Agha Ahmed sahib ????? amel-i"..., what would that be in english?
is that pretty common to have the name like that erased? i just find it odd that the first inscription is still intact, and the other one looks as if it was tampered on purpose. :shrug:

thanky, batara and rsword! might take this to kentucy expo if i make it this february

Battara 7th December 2010 03:10 AM

That would be great bro! :D

BTW - an aga/agha is a commander in the Ottoman military and it belonged to him. I think the maker was what is erased. Basically owned by commander Ahmed, "made by......(garble, garble)."


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