Caucasian Khanjar or Beibut dagger ?
 

Hello,

I have just bought this dagger in an auction on internet

the hilt shape look like a kindjal hilt ( seems made of horn )
the curved blade looks like a beibut dagger blade or a khanjar .

The scabbard ending mount has an ''ottoman/greek'' style
( made of brass ? )

so I make a ''mix'' between these informations and opt for a caucasian origin.

What do you think ?
All comments are welcomed.

I'll post better pictures when I'll receive it.

Kind regards

Franco

I just found this dagger picture on internet,
said to be a kurdish dagger,

the scabbard is really similar,

the hilt ...hum...

Maybe a japanese hirschfanger ?... ;)

No one has got/seen a dagger like this one ?

Kurdish khanjar from Turkey very much influenced by Caucasian as you wrote
interesting

Hello and thank you Kubur,

I'll post interesting picture ( I hope !) when i'll receive it.

Kind regards

Kindjals with curved blade are called Bebut in Russia, There was even a military variant of such a weapon with Bebut as its official name.
I have no idea what is the meaning of this name.
Anybody knows?

Hello everybody,
I don't know too what bebut-beibut means
( I thought just maybe dagger or knife but it isn't...)

Just received the dagger,
really nice !!
turkish-kurdish khanjar as Kubur said,

I cleaned the scabbard, nice surprise, it's silver mounted.
The blade is interesting and a bit strange:
it's an heavy blade and on one side only,
the fuller seems to have been ''blued''.

For the scabbard,
does anybody know the meaning of the fittings shape ?

Kind regards !

I cleaned the blade too...

I used first sandpaper 400 then 600, 1000 and finish with 1500.
Still remains scratches/stripes...

A damas blade ?

Or just a rough old sharpening ?

I hesitate to etch the blade gently ( with lemon/ vinegar ?... )

Advices welcomed !!

In my experience many of these Kurdish Jambiyas have a watered blade. I would give it a go, you can always polish it out if you're not happy. A lot of etchants seem to leave a brown/yellow tinge. I have found that if, after stabilising, black boot polish is smeared on the blade and then vigorously polished off it leaves a pleasant dark hue to the blade.
Best wishes
Richard

Hi Francantolin,
To me, it does not look Caucasian nor Turkish. In my view this is either Syrian Kurdish or from Iraq, very close to Syria. I say this because of the shape of the hilt and the blade with one central fuller. So, the dagger looks Syrian or thereabout, but the sheath is 100% Iraqi. This is my personal opinion and I have no literature to back it.

Never even thought of it!
One lives, one learns.
Thanks!

Nital, 2%.
You can get it on Amazon, but all companies I tried to contact were ready to ship it only to a commercial address.
A friend of mine, who is a VP of a metalworking company, buys it for me.
If you have connections with chemistry lab, metal working company, professional blademaker etc, you are in luck.
No yucky brown stuff of ferric chloride!

Thank you all !!

I'll try to find Nital 2%,
don't seems easy to find.

I work in an highschool; I will ask my colleague teaching physical if they have nitric acid in the laboratory and mix it with ethanol...( sure glasses, gloves and laboratory fume hood).
We'll see ...

Hello,

I found concentrated chlorydric acid ( 20%) but no nitric acid,
I read it attacks strongly iron,
Do you think it can be used too ? ( 1-2 % ?)
:confused: