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cornelistromp 1st March 2015 11:39 AM

eBay CLAYMORE OR CLAY(NO)MORE
 
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in Arms and Armour there is a lot of junk offered on eBay however rarely sometimes interesting weapons.

such as this claymore sword;

http://www.ebay.com/itm/231478254890...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

a weapon friend from the same city sent me the link to the auction, original claymores are one of the rarest swords in the world,only a handful genuine ones are known.
I also expect that this is a later reproduction, 19th C or 20th C, if you look at the lines on the ricasso, it looks that it is made by casting, it doesn't look forged and chiselled.

So I have made an offer by mail which was accepted by the selling party who ended the auction
if all goes well and according to the seller, the sword is on the way to me, but I also take into account scams because the given USPS tracking nr is only known as pre-shipment information at USPS. I asked the seller for the mailing receipt to sort it out, we will see.

if I may receive the sword I will tell more about it in detail and post additional info.

more to follow.

best
Jasper

cornelistromp 1st March 2015 11:48 AM

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fernando 1st March 2015 01:09 PM

Well Jasper, if this doesn't turn up 'too good to be true', you have certainly made the deal of the year.
Can't wait to hear further news.

ChrisPer 3rd March 2015 01:35 AM

It has style.

I like it.

Marcus 3rd March 2015 11:23 PM

ditto
 
Hope it works out!

Shakethetrees 4th March 2015 02:52 AM

I hate to throw a wet blanket on the party, but, with the blade incruststion all over except for the extreme tip and adjacent edges, I believe this is a 20th century repro.

If one observes blades of a known old age, the points are usually rounded or somewhat deformed from years of contact with the floor of the old building or barn, kids and adults poking, dragging, and hitting things not meant to be cut with a sword, electrolytic corrosion from ground action, etc.

More likely the forte and ricasso will show original surface than the point.

cornelistromp 4th March 2015 09:24 AM

For the moment, I also think, as indicated in # 1 that it is a 19th or 20th century reproduction, for several reasons.
I come back on this after receipt.
best,
jasper

ulfberth 12th March 2015 09:32 AM

Hello Jasper,

I'm quite sure I found two similar one's , If you want you can pm me beacause for the moment they can not be discussed on the forum.

Kind regards

Ulfberth

cornelistromp 20th March 2015 04:04 PM

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yes there are more alike.
as a model for those later pieces has probably served a claymore in kelvingrove art museum.

parcel received today :) :) :)

cornelistromp 20th March 2015 06:40 PM

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cornelistromp 20th March 2015 07:06 PM

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this one is sold for GBP 240.000 at Thomas del mar in 2007, an absolute record.

http://www.antiquestradegazette.com/...cottish-sword/

AN EXCEPTIONALLY RARE SCOTTISH HIGHLAND TWO HAND SWORD, CLAIDHEAMH MOR, THIRD QUARTER OF THE 16TH CENTURY with broad flat blade cut with a pair of fullers and incised with lines on each face, stamped with two dagger-like marks, a star, and the letters 'L K' a running wolf between, rectangular ricasso struck with a Pi mark on one side (rubbed, slightly bent), steel hilt comprising a pair of robust downward-slanting quillons of flattened-hexagonal section with characteristic quatrefoil terminals, rounded collar flattened on each side, a pair of attenuated langets filed with a series of lines at the base, small wheel pommel drawn-out on each side in the centre, and later wooden grip (cleaned throughout) 97cm; 38 1/4in blade Inv. no. E035 Remarkably few of these very distinctive swords have survived, the majority of which are preserved in institutional collections. No other examples have appeared on the market in recent years. For a discussion of Scottish two hand swords and their chronology see T. Willis 1996, pp. 16-19. Swords blades of this period with the same group of marks are preserved in the Landeszeughaus Graz, inv. nos. BL166 and BL168. £50000-80000
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