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AHite 21st December 2022 11:17 PM

Help needed to id knife
 
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I have had this knife in my collection for a few years, but have never researched where it was made. Based on a few clues I believe it is Asian in origin. Total length is 25cm, or 10 inches. Blade is 4mm thickness at the guard. The handle is solid horn, with brass ricasso and guard. I'm interested in learning about the markings on the blade, particularly the sun image. It looks like the sun was created by using a round piece of copper that goes through the blade.

The scabbard is leather, badly damaged at the end where the very sharp point of the blade has punched through. Split rivets and thread hold the two pieces of the scabbard together. Overall it's an interesting knife even if it turns out to be just a tourist piece. Thanks for any and all information!

shayde78 27th December 2022 09:11 PM

By no means an expert (barely a novice), but this reminded me a little of an item I posted herehttp://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=24390 a while ago.

So, it might be a Surmene variant. Heavy speculation and guessing on my part.

AHite 28th December 2022 11:07 AM

Thanks for your info!

Athanase 29th December 2022 01:31 AM

For me it's vintage "tourist/souvenir" knife from india.

David R 29th December 2022 08:35 AM

How thick is the back of the blade?

Tim Simmons 29th December 2022 12:20 PM

If it was not for the scabbard, it looks Thai/sea, to me especially the guard?

AHite 29th December 2022 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by David R (Post 277473)
How thick is the back of the blade?

Using my calipers the thickness part of the blade is 4.15mm.

carlos 29th December 2022 09:50 PM

A friend bought one like this piece in Thailand several years ago.
Best regards
Carlos

ariel 30th December 2022 11:45 AM

I am with Tim and Carlos.

kronckew 30th December 2022 12:12 PM

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The knife does have the shape of a Thai enep or Hmong (Montaniard) knife. the touristy scabbard probably for Western eyes. May even have been replaced by or for a GI during the Vietnam war.


Mine: The villagers prefer these without the thick aluminium guard.

David R 30th December 2022 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by AHite (Post 277479)
Using my calipers the thickness part of the blade is 4.15mm.

Which indicates it's made for use.... Anyway others have identified it, so I am late to the party. :)

Sajen 28th January 2023 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by David R (Post 277523)
Which indicates it's made for use.... Anyway others have identified it, so I am late to the party. :)

Hello David,

I have attached pictures from a similar one I've sold not long ago.
40 cm long with a blade from 26 cm, 7 mm thick at the spine direct after the handle and a weight from 460 gram. Very sharp. When this knife wasn't made for use I don't know. ;)

Regards,
Detlef


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