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Taffjones 29th December 2012 01:27 PM

Whip ? for discussion.
 
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Hi Guys,
This whip type item was sourced from the same person I had the Mandingo/Arab sword from a number of years ago. Could this have anything to do with slave trade as well or am I jumping to conclusions. It consists of a flexible steel core about 4mm in diameter surrounded by bone type segments. I think that some type of covering would have covered the bone segments. It has good age patina and feels well balanced in the hand. The overall length is 73cm.

Thanks in advance

Darren

Atlantia 29th December 2012 01:42 PM

Anecdotally these were popular with sea captains and mariners in the 19thC.
The shaft of the stick is made from the spinal column of a shark or similar large boney fish.
So they are cartilage vertebrae. They wouldn't have been covered, they would always have been exposed as they are now.
They seem to show a good amount of patina.
What is the head made from?
P.S. it's a walking cane.

Taffjones 29th December 2012 02:40 PM

Hi Atlantia,
The head seems to be made from a type of heavy hardwood. So you think its a walking cane. Dam fooled again.

Thanks
Darren

Sajen 29th December 2012 02:50 PM

I think the bone segments are from tuna burbles but I may be wrong.

Taffjones 29th December 2012 03:31 PM

Hi Atlantia,
Do you mean swagger stick?
Thanks
Darren

spiral 29th December 2012 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taffjones
Hi Atlantia,
Do you mean swagger stick?
Thanks
Darren


That depends on how tall they were! :D

Spiral

Atlantia 29th December 2012 04:16 PM

Hi Darren,

Is the length across the curve or around it?
In either event it's still within the length range for a cane and rather long for a swagger stick.

Taffjones 29th December 2012 04:25 PM

Hi Atlantia,
Yes the length is across the curve.
Thanks
Darren

fearn 29th December 2012 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sajen
I think the bone segments are from tuna burbles but I may be wrong.

Googling "shark vertebrae" and "tuna vertebrae" and looking at the images, I think the original attribution was correct, these are shark vertebrae.

F

Atlantia 29th December 2012 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taffjones
Hi Atlantia,
Yes the length is across the curve.
Thanks
Darren

It's probable that the curve is the result of use rather than design, so it would have been a few cm longer originally.


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