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Atlantia 6th August 2011 03:09 PM

Club or.......?
 
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Hi all,

Took a bit of a chance on this. Never seen anything quite like it.
Is it a club or some farming impliment?

Gavin Nugent 6th August 2011 03:31 PM

:rolleyes: Is it a very early Gray-Nicolls or a Bradbury :rolleyes: but you knew that was coming :D

Atlantia 6th August 2011 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by freebooter
:rolleyes: Is it a very early Gray-Nicolls or a Bradbury :rolleyes: but you knew that was coming :D


LOL, for that Hobbit-Cricket that never quite caught on?
;)

Norman McCormick 6th August 2011 04:28 PM

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For Brit Rover/Wizard readers of a certain age only!!!!!!!!

Hi Gene,
I see you've managed to unearth the 'clicky ba' of Lt Bill Samson's trusty sidekick Chung.

kronckew 6th August 2011 04:34 PM

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nice flax/hemp beater (scutching sword or swingle) :)

David 6th August 2011 04:49 PM

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...or maybe a Frat house paddle... :rolleyes: :)

katana 6th August 2011 05:17 PM

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You guys .. :D :D

Gene, depending on the source of the wood used ....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trobriand_Cricket

although it could be a little small ....is the wood mahogany ?

Best David


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Atlantia 6th August 2011 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by David
...or maybe a Frat house paddle... :rolleyes: :)


LOL, cheers buddy,
In fairness I think it's me that's going to be taking a spanking from this one
:(

Atlantia 6th August 2011 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Norman McCormick
For Brit Rover/Wizard readers of a certain age only!!!!!!!!

Hi Gene,
I see you've managed to unearth the 'clicky ba' of Lt Bill Samson's trusty sidekick Chung.


:D 'From a ledge high in the Kyber pass.....'

Atlantia 6th August 2011 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by kronckew
nice flax/hemp beater (scutching sword or swingle) :)

Oh god! Do you think so?

Atlantia 6th August 2011 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by katana
You guys .. :D :D

Gene, depending on the source of the wood used ....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trobriand_Cricket

although it could be a little small ....is the wood mahogany ?

Best David


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Hmmm,

Might be Mahogany...
Do you notice that on the 'face' of the cricket bat shape, it has two faces and a central ridge that runs right up to the top of the handle?
That was what decided me that it wasn't a kids cricket bat.
:shrug:

kronckew 7th August 2011 08:18 AM

here's a shortish video on trobriand cricket, shows the bats used very well. - they don't look like the subject bat.

Last Man Standing - Trobriand Cricket

interesting that they're turning clubs into cricket bats...

tom hyle 7th August 2011 12:49 PM

It definitely has a far far greater resemblance to a cricket bat than to anything else I've seen. The ridge on the handle is reminiscent of a feature of Japanese cutlery handles (not that this is Japanese; Japanese culture has a close relation to other Pacific cultures and this relation is shown in the material culture on both sides of the relationship).

Atlantia 9th August 2011 11:24 AM

Thanks for continuing to analyse this mystery object gentlemen. :)
I must admit it's got me 'stumped' ;)

tom hyle 11th August 2011 03:30 PM

A similar handle ridge is found on some Pacific canoe paddles.

Atlantia 12th August 2011 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by tom hyle
A similar handle ridge is found on some Pacific canoe paddles.

Well, thats a direction I'd like to explore...
Thanks Tom. :)

Atlantia 17th August 2011 10:52 AM

Any further thoughs chaps?

kronckew 17th August 2011 12:13 PM

it's a washing bat especially for beating your clothes on the rocks to get out asparagus stains...

http://blog.greenearthbamboo.com/wp-...-on-a-rock.jpghttp://www.tim-bowen-antiques.com/up...x-09-bat-b.jpg

Atlantia 17th August 2011 12:46 PM

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it's a washing bat especially for beating your clothes on the rocks to get out asparagus stains...

http://blog.greenearthbamboo.com/wp-...-on-a-rock.jpghttp://www.tim-bowen-antiques.com/up...x-09-bat-b.jpg

Great catch Kronck'!!!

Oh well at least its for beating something :shrug:
I bet many a man has felt their club-like properties, perhaps I should add it to the women with weapons thread? ;)

I think that settles it's origin, doesn't seem to be much doubt.

Best
Gene

tom hyle 19th August 2011 04:16 AM

These seem to be European. The device in question seems to be of Pacific wood?? Cricket, though also European, is widely distributed in the Pacific; is the use of such laundry paddles? Note
again the ridge to both handle and "blade", which these seem to lack. Still looks like some kind of
cricket bat to me.

Atlantia 31st August 2011 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by tom hyle
These seem to be European. The device in question seems to be of Pacific wood?? Cricket, though also European, is widely distributed in the Pacific; is the use of such laundry paddles? Note
again the ridge to both handle and "blade", which these seem to lack. Still looks like some kind of
cricket bat to me.


Hi Tom,

The thing that IMHO kills the Cricket Bat theory is the central ridge on the face. A cricket bat has a flat face so you can direct your shot. That would be nigh on impossible with a bat with 'two' angled faces.

Best
Gene

kronckew 31st August 2011 07:03 PM

?

the original posted photos seem to show the central ridge only on one side, the other being flat with rounded edges.

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/attach...id=74846&stc=1

raised ridge

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/attach...id=74849&stc=1

flat side

i still do not think it's a cricket bat tho. :)


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