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rumpel9 12th April 2018 07:50 PM

Need help to ID sword.
 
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Hello, folks.
Few days ago I have bought the sword from Malay Archipelago. This sword is the riddle for me. I can not find similar in any book.
So here is my questions:
1. The name of the sword?
2. The type (parang, pedang, golok)?
3. Origin, wich people it belongs?

Sajen 12th April 2018 09:54 PM

Hello Rumpel9,

I think it's a Sunda pedang, very old, first half 19th century, maybe older. Sadly seems a piece wood missing at the handle and also the ferrule. Scabbard is a recent replacement.

Regards,
Detlef

Treeslicer 12th April 2018 10:16 PM

Very nice.

rumpel9 13th April 2018 11:06 AM

Hallo, Detlef.
Thank you for the info. Do you know has this pedang its own name?
Regsrds, Yury.

Gustav 13th April 2018 11:19 AM

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Isn't it a metal lamella rather then missing piece of wood?
Of course it's possible only if a metal ferrule is there.

rumpel9 13th April 2018 07:22 PM

To say the truth, I didnt hold this pedang in my hands yet. I will pick it up at the end of next week. If it is interesting I will make and post more detailed pics.

ACP 13th April 2018 09:32 PM

I agree with Mr. Detlef, it sure looks like a sunda pedang.

But there appears to be no missing piece of wood. It just has a metal frame to exactly protect the wooden ferrule from chipping. These metal frames came about during the 19th to mid 20th century. Seems to be an afterthought after a lot of old wooden handles started to get broken inadvertently during handling.

Just my humble opinion

Sajen 13th April 2018 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Gustav
Isn't it a metal lamella rather then missing piece of wood?
Of course it's possible only if a metal ferrule is there.

Yes, you are correct! :) My eyes are not really good anymore. :rolleyes:

Sajen 13th April 2018 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by rumpel9
Thank you for the info. Do you know has this pedang its own name?

Hi Jury,
when I am correct that it is Sundanese Amuk Murugul would be the one who could answer your question. But I would be happy with pedang! ;)

Regards,
Detlef

Amuk Murugul 13th April 2018 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Sajen
Hi Jury,
when I am correct that it is Sundanese Amuk Murugul would be the one who could answer your question. But I would be happy with pedang! ;)

Regards,
Detlef

Hullo Detlef, :)
Thanks for the intro.

Hullo Yuri,
To me, it appears to be a Pedang Tewek Sampana (SoendaGaloeh).
Hilt seems to be a thinly-disguised clump of fern-croziers, thus it is an Eloek Pakoe variant.(I say 'thinly-disguised' because overall, it is made to look like a Djawa planar hilt, suggesting the style was adopted after 1579).
Have a look at the end of the metal strip. Does it look broken? If not, then it is normal. It was put there as is as a strengthener.

Best,

rumpel9 14th April 2018 01:21 PM

Detlef, Amuk Murugul thank you for replies.

Sajen 14th April 2018 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by rumpel9
Detlef, Amuk Murugul thank you for replies.

You're welcome! :)


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