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Gavin Nugent 23rd July 2014 09:35 AM

Stone inlay question
 
I have an old Madura keris hilt in ivory that appears to have once had a cabachon inlayed to the centre of the stylised sun motif on its back.
The size would have been just a fraction under 8mm x 5mm and flat backed.

My questions are;
1/ Would this have been a stone or something else?
2/ If a stone, what type would it be?
3/ If it wasn't a stone, what would it be?

The recess retains old black pitch.

Thanks

Gavin

David 23rd July 2014 10:35 AM

I know you must have thought about this by now,Gavin, but pictures wouldn't hurt the conversation. ;) :)

Gavin Nugent 23rd July 2014 04:15 PM

Indeed David but it is 0100hrs here in Australia and I write from work...a long way from my collections....It is the Donoriko type with a sun burst in the centre of its back.

David 24th July 2014 01:22 AM

I can wait… :)

Gavin Nugent 24th July 2014 03:40 AM

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Ta-da :-)

Nothing remarkable.

A. G. Maisey 24th July 2014 03:59 AM

I reckon that's a sun spot.

Gavin Nugent 24th July 2014 04:39 AM

But not a melanoma.... :p

Looks more like a coronal hole... :eek:

Gavin Nugent 25th July 2014 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by David
I can wait… :)

:rolleyes:

David 25th July 2014 07:17 PM

Gavin, it does indeed look like something once occupied this spot, but i'm not sure i could give any reliable answer to your question of exactly what it was. Very possibly a stone, but what type is a pretty open. I'm not sure i have ever seen a stone set into this type of hilt before so i have no precedent to draw from. :shrug:
It does look like someone my have chipped the ivory a bit digging the object out if that chip is a sign of that then it happened a little ways back.

kulbuntet 15th August 2014 06:57 PM

It could have contained a sun with a face or eyes, that was chipped out because islam does not allow it.

Or a illustration of something in relation with the Dutch, destroyed by one that did not like to look at it any more.

Both only speculations, but a possibility.

Gavin Nugent 17th August 2014 04:55 AM

Thank you very much for these ponderous thoughts


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