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AHorsa 4th October 2015 06:54 PM

What dagger do I have here?
 
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Hello,

does someone knows what this is and how old? I think maybe ottoman?
The dagger is 46cm long.

Thanks and best regards
Andreas

Sajen 4th October 2015 07:15 PM

It is a flyssa from Algeria, not my area of collecting but it look good and old to my eyes. I would guess that it is from around 1900 until 1930. Do a little bit search by the keyword "flyssa" and you will find more examples and informations. :)

Regards,
Detlef

kronckew 4th October 2015 11:55 PM

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yes, kaybele flyssa, the brass covered grip, blade shape & decoration and the carved scabbard are classic.

Mine:

AHorsa 5th October 2015 07:00 AM

Great, thank you!

Kubur 5th October 2015 09:16 AM

Hi!
I'll add that your flyssa is probably much older, around 1880-1890.
A good thing is your scabbard decorated only on the exposed part.
The late flyssa are often decorated on both sides.
We have an expert called Emmanuel, you can have a look at his threads...
And yes, in a way, it's Ottoman as Algeria was a part of the Empire...
Best,
Kubur

Emanuel 5th October 2015 04:58 PM

Hi Andreas,

I am no expert, but the flyssa is my favourite edged weapon :)
I agree with Kubur, very late 19th century. I don't know how far these were made into the 20th century Detlef, but quality keeps going down after the 19th century. Recently though, I have seen some very simple stylized flyssa that look very modern.

Lots of information and discussion on the flyssa and Kabyles on this forum.

Regards,
Emanuel

Sajen 5th October 2015 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Emanuel
Hi Andreas,

I am no expert, but the flyssa is my favourite edged weapon :)
I agree with Kubur, very late 19th century. I don't know how far these were made into the 20th century Detlef, but quality keeps going down after the 19th century. Recently though, I have seen some very simple stylized flyssa that look very modern.

Lots of information and discussion on the flyssa and Kabyles on this forum.

Regards,
Emanuel

Hello Emanuel,

like said, not my area of collecting and knowledge but have seen from the posted pictures that it is an old one with decent quality.

Regards,
Detlef


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