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weapons 27 3rd April 2014 04:35 PM

yatagan for id please
 
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can you give me the origin of the yatagan

It measures 70cm long, the blade 5cm heel, very thick in the heel, t blade...
mother-of-Pearl and brass inlays. and a marking on the blade

Emanuel 4th April 2014 12:58 AM

Ooh, very interesting piece, the blade has very graceful lines!

The mother-of-pearl looks like a modern addition to the large brass rivets. The style recalls North/Eastern Anatolian and Central Asian types. The integral bolster and thinning tang is very very interesting.

Emanuel 15th April 2014 01:36 PM

I'll bump this, in case someone else has some thoughts to share on this piece.

Sancar 16th April 2014 12:35 AM

Very interesting, very original, very unusual...and probably either not Turkish and/or recently made. It's not just the hilt,shape of the blade itself is also very unusual, and have some subtle differences from the usual form of a yatağan(even so that yatağan form itself varied radically)

It is very beautiful, yet puzzling.

Emanuel 16th April 2014 01:07 PM

I was hoping you'd chime in on this, Sancar. I was looking through your thread on contemporary Turkish bladesmiths to see if something similar came up.

Skarts_ss 18th April 2014 07:54 PM

Hi,
i think that this yatagan comes from Trebizold area(Pontos) in the black sea. I would say that it is of late 19th or early 20th century . It seems christian.

Sancar 21st April 2014 11:23 AM

This is not a Black Sea yatağan, or a recently made more Turkish reproduction. The rivet and inlay decoration reminds me of Central Asian knives. Shape of ears and hilt is similar to Caucasian region wooden hilted shashkas. So I think this might be a rehilted Khyber knife or a modern "yatağan" made by an Afgani or Northen Uzbek bladesmith who usually make Khyber knife type blades.


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