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weapons 27 7th May 2013 04:14 PM

indian sword for a child please comment!!
 
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Here are some pictures of a small Indian sword. I think for a child.
the first three pictures I had just cleaned the blade, and my surprise is damas
Then I cleaned the handle ...
it measures 65cm long, 53cm blade and a small handful, I think for a child,
have you ever seen a small model of this style??

Ibrahiim al Balooshi 7th May 2013 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by weapons 27
Here are some pictures of a small Indian sword. I think for a child.
the first three pictures I had just cleaned the blade, and my surprise is damas
Then I cleaned the handle ...
it measures 65cm long, 53cm blade and a small handful, I think for a child,
have you ever seen a small model of this style??


Salaams weapons 27 ~ Do you not think it could be a snapped blade reworked as a long dagger ... shortsword..? The tip looks newly worked? Of course it could be a snapped sword reworked as a childs sword..Hmmm.... :shrug:

Nice pattern on the blade and it is cleaning up well... Thanks.

Regards,
Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

soni bikaner 7th May 2013 08:04 PM

please post photo of spine
 
hi weapons 27,

interesting.. Indian firangi style small sword, is it edged both sided or have spine ?
i would like see if so... please post photo of spine then i will post my opinion sir !

regards

soni

archer 7th May 2013 08:08 PM

Very Interesting quite a find The ricasso area pattern looks much bigger than the rest of the blade. Perhaps, it is due to more forge work at the hilt. I'm really liking your progress done without making the blade look over cleaned. Care to share the steps used? Steve

russel 7th May 2013 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by archer
Care to share the steps used? Steve

Yes, please share your cleaning process.

weapons 27 8th May 2013 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Ibrahiim al Balooshi
Salaams weapons 27 ~ Do you not think it could be a snapped blade reworked as a long dagger ... shortsword..? The tip looks newly worked? Of course it could be a snapped sword reworked as a childs sword..Hmmm.... :shrug:

Nice pattern on the blade and it is cleaning up well... Thanks.

Regards,
Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

hi ibrahim
I do not think that this is a broken blade, I think that this sword was made for a child

weapons 27 8th May 2013 06:31 AM

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hi soni

both sides of the blade are in Damas
the blade 4mm thickness

weapons 27 8th May 2013 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by archer
Very Interesting quite a find The ricasso area pattern looks much bigger than the rest of the blade. Perhaps, it is due to more forge work at the hilt. I'm really liking your progress done without making the blade look over cleaned. Care to share the steps used? Steve

have used the process to our friend ARIEL."for the blade, paper body car has used a "water grain 800, and 1200...the blade was in the same State as the handle!
then after the sanding rinse with SOAP or dishwashing liquid with water...dry, degrease the blade with alcohol or acetone.dry.heat hot vinegar and pass it on the blade with a cloth or sponge,neutralize with bicarbonate soude diluted with water about four large spoons to 5 litres hot water...Let it soak for about 5 minutes, rinse has water clear, wipe, dry and lubricate with wd40...

weapons 27 8th May 2013 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by russel
Yes, please share your cleaning process.

to handle I use these brushes that it sell for stripping paint from wood, medium grain and fine grain, after I take these round brushes used a polishing, fine grain, we can use it on a normal blade, especially not on a slide and woots Damascus!!!!!!

Ann Feuerbach 8th May 2013 03:17 PM

Nice find! Just FYI, I remember seeing blades made for children in museums in India.

Ann Feuerbach 8th May 2013 03:18 PM

On a side note....
As a conservator I must say the sight of those brushes brings horror to my morning coffee :eek:

russel 8th May 2013 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Ann Feuerbach
On a side note....
As a conservator I must say the sight of those brushes brings horror to my morning coffee :eek:

Those brushes scared me too! What would you do Ann?

weapons 27 9th May 2013 05:11 AM

hi
these brushes are used for cleaning wood ... they should be used when there is a large surface rust with red brush, it does not scratch the metal, and blue for finishing! other two are for polish ... it is not a metal brushes that lines metal, that are used in carpentry

Jens Nordlunde 9th May 2013 04:28 PM

Hi,
How big is the grip?
This may be able to tell us if the sword is for a child, or if it is shortened.
Jens

weapons 27 10th May 2013 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Jens Nordlunde
Hi,
How big is the grip?
This may be able to tell us if the sword is for a child, or if it is shortened.
Jens

hi jens
the handle measuring inside 7.5 cm to the passage of the hand, I put three fingers... it's a handle for a child...

weapons 27 10th May 2013 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Jens Nordlunde
Hi,
How big is the grip?
This may be able to tell us if the sword is for a child, or if it is shortened.
Jens

Here is the difference between a firangi and handle for child

Jens Nordlunde 10th May 2013 01:29 PM

A grip measuring 7.5 cm doesn't mean that it was made for a child/young man, but it could have been.
Is the width of the blade 'normal'? If it is made for a child, I would think the blade would have been made to fit the length.
Jens

weapons 27 10th May 2013 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Jens Nordlunde
A grip measuring 7.5 cm doesn't mean that it was made for a child/young man, but it could have been.
Is the width of the blade 'normal'? If it is made for a child, I would think the blade would have been made to fit the length.
Jens

the width of the blade is 3 cm at the beginning of the handle and 2.5 cm in the middle of the blade

Jens Nordlunde 10th May 2013 04:55 PM

What is the width of your other swords of the same type?
Jens

weapons 27 10th May 2013 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Jens Nordlunde
What is the width of your other swords of the same type?
Jens

hi jens
the two firangi I have, the blade measures 4cm at the beginning of the handle and 3.5 cm in the middle of the blade

Jens Nordlunde 10th May 2013 06:18 PM

My firangi blades measure from 3 to 4 cm.
However, as firangi blades were mostly European, and your short one maybe Indian, these measures leads us nowhere.
So the riddle is not yet solved.
Jens


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