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Nathaniel 22nd February 2009 05:56 PM

Daab/ Dah Makers Marks
 
I was thinking it would be intersting to start a thread on daarb/ dha makers marks.

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s...a/DSC_0051.jpg

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s...k/DSC_0003.jpg

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s...0mark/ph-2.jpg

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s...11sword036.jpg

kronckew 22nd February 2009 07:05 PM

sometimes the spine marks are also informative

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s...s/P2220198.jpg

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s...s/P2220200.jpg

fernando 22nd February 2009 09:31 PM

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This is probably a very common one :shrug:
... But i still have no trace on its meaning :confused: .
Fernando

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kahnjar1 23rd February 2009 04:49 AM

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OK Here are a few to get the ball rolling.
Regards Stuart

Mark 23rd February 2009 05:37 PM

Great thread! Unfortunately, most of the marks are in need of translation, for me. I only know the meaning of two - the "turtle" mark, which my understanding denotes a northern Thai (Chaing Mai) origin, and the "bitter melon seed" (two rosettes), which indicates Aranyik. I have one that bears both:

http://dharesearch.bowditch.us/49_markings.jpg

I am somewhat tentative in the attribution, however, as I only have it from one source, who has been inaccurate in some other respects.

Here are a couple others I have seen:

http://dharesearch.bowditch.us/Images/Image217.jpg
http://dharesearch.bowditch.us/Images/Image240.jpg
http://dharesearch.bowditch.us/Images/Image431.jpg

I would be great if some of our Thai colleagues could verify any of this. :)

Nathaniel 24th February 2009 05:42 AM

Another to add...anyone have a sword with the same?

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s...k/DSC_0022.jpg

kahnjar1 24th February 2009 06:06 AM

...and another one
 
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Forgot this one. On the same blade as the first one above. The script is MON which is the forerunner to modern Burmese, but there is also what appears to be a stilletto type mark.

Nathaniel 25th February 2009 05:28 AM

Interesting piece Stuart, I have not seen many with the Mon script. I do not know much on the Mon people. So here is what I looked up:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mon_people

kronckew 25th February 2009 07:27 AM

not as yet had a translation of the markings on this dha's grip, i've assumed it's some sort of dedication or presentation inscription.
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s...ew/ag_dha1.jpg
the blade itself is unmarked.

the phoenix on the grip also has an inscription over it.
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s...ew/ag_dha5.jpg

overall dha for context
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s...ew/ag_dha3.jpg

Nathaniel 26th February 2009 05:43 AM

Mark....I thought it might be funny/ interesting for you to know that when I showed an thai friend, the 4th picture you posted....she said the thai script on the blade looked like the thai word "Hell"!!!!!

Mark 26th February 2009 03:31 PM

No kidding?! Interesting choice for a maker's mark.

Nathaniel 7th June 2009 06:31 PM

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s...zuDaoTiger.jpg

Gavin Nugent 29th September 2009 02:01 PM

Some more marks for the archives
 
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Some more marks for the archives;

All four images from the one sword.

Gav

Gavin Nugent 30th September 2009 07:20 AM

Some more your the archives
 
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Some more markings, although I wouldn't say a "makers marks" as such but were certainly marks/design when made.

Gav

Nathaniel 30th September 2009 02:52 PM

Beautiful pieces...thanks for sharing Gav :)

asomotif 7th November 2009 10:47 PM

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Another one :
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=11028

Gavin Nugent 13th November 2009 05:56 AM

A couple more from Ebay
 
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A couple more from Ebay, maybe the owner is among us?

Gav

Gavin Nugent 4th January 2010 11:30 AM

Another for the Dhafia
 
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Another group of markings on a nice ivory hilted Dha. I have included the dha hilt too as I have not seen this much attention payed to ivory other than the real exotic carved pieces.

Best

Gav

Nathaniel 24th January 2010 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nathaniel
Another to add...anyone have a sword with the same?

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s...k/DSC_0022.jpg

Couple more pistol maker marks to add:

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s...9/DSC_1147.jpg

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s...9/DSC_1143.jpg

Nathaniel 24th January 2010 10:18 PM

A Star:

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s...9/DSC_1153.jpg

Nathaniel 24th January 2010 10:25 PM

Arrow

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s...9/DSC_0669.jpg

Gavin Nugent 3rd April 2010 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nathaniel
Another to add...anyone have a sword with the same?

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s...k/DSC_0022.jpg

Hi Nathaniel,

This pistol marking is from the Yuen Lam provence on the China Burma border is late 1970-1980s.

Gav

Nathaniel 25th September 2010 06:13 PM

http://www.arscives.com/historysteel.../236-ayw21.jpg

Listed as a British production piece and the BP4, (British Police?), but I didn't see anything listed on the arrow mark....I just did some searching on the internet under British arrow mark and came up with the "Broad Arrow":

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broad_arrow

Andrew 27th September 2010 01:45 AM

http://www.vikingsword.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/002441.html

Great find on the "broad arrow" mark, Nathaniel. As I mentioned to you privately, the "BP4" referenced in the HOS catalogue was a mistake--the "4" referred to the arrow mark.

Given the other "___ P" marks I've seen on bayonets, I'm inclined to think the "BP" stands for Burma Police, but that's mostly speculation on my part. :shrug:

Cheers,
Andrew :cool:

Nathaniel 27th September 2010 03:10 AM

Sweet, love references to the old forum threads. Thanks for the clarification Andrew... :p


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