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Calien 10th February 2020 08:07 AM

Identification 19th century cav sword
 
Hello,
I am new here, but im looking for your expertise on this subject. I bought this sword at auction described as a WWI artillery officer sword, but its quite obvious that the description doesnt match. The format is very similar to that of Napoleons Imperial Guard, but instead of an "N" it has a "G" and the imperial eagle has been substituted with a sun. Thanks for the help and enjoy :)

fernando 10th February 2020 12:23 PM

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Calien, if you cared to have a look to our forum rules, you would be aware that posting pictures with links to web hosts is not the correct procedure.
This time i will save them to a computer, resize them (rotate a couple) and upload them with the adequate attachment features.
I notice that you have had an opinion that your nice sword is Prussian. Let us see whether members here concur with such assessment.


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corrado26 10th February 2020 06:07 PM

Possibly this is an Italian sabre of the kingdom of Naples under Joseph Bonaparte who was king in Naples from 1806 to 1808. He was the brother of Napoleon Bonaparte and his Italien name was Giuseppe Buonaparte = "G".
corrado26

corrado26 11th February 2020 11:08 AM

No remarks of nobody?

Calien 11th February 2020 04:32 PM

Thank you Fernando and I apologize about that. Corrado thats amazing! Ive been searching for someone that matches the "G" but completely forgot to translate his name. That is a huge clue that I will definitely will look into. Any other input is greatly appreciated.

Calien 11th February 2020 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by corrado26
No remarks of nobody?

Yes the maker is Gebruder Weyersberg of Solingen its written on the spine.

fernando 11th February 2020 06:21 PM

So ... you have not noticed that before, Calien ...

Calien 11th February 2020 08:20 PM

No, it always comes up as Joseph Bonaparte in English and I never made the connection. Its the same with Murat I just noticed his first name in Italian is Gioacchino Murat...so it could also be him. I need to do more research thats for sure.

Calien 11th February 2020 08:30 PM

Its also possible that it could be from Murat as his name translates into "Gioacchino Napoleone Murat". Im hoping I can find a similar sample with the same monogram.

David R 10th April 2020 11:48 PM

Notched drag?
 
Something that caught my eye was the notched drag of the chape, something I would have thought no more of, except that I had just finished reading a thread on here, about notched points, of this same configuration.

Calien 22nd April 2020 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by David R
Something that caught my eye was the notched drag of the chape, something I would have thought no more of, except that I had just finished reading a thread on here, about notched points, of this same configuration.

Could you link the thread please? :)

David R 22nd April 2020 08:09 PM

Near the end of this thread... http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?p=214570

Victrix 22nd April 2020 11:09 PM

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It would be a particularly vicious practice to gut enemies using a blunt scabbard! Perhaps the story about using the notches to pick up horse reins is true after all? Or maybe French soldiers used notches on scabbards to recognize their swords amongst others? I have a French Napoleonic sabre cavalerie legere modele AN XI which has a notched M or W on the scabbard drag. :shrug:


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