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Spiridonov 12th December 2011 05:07 PM

16-century firearms in stone
 
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The beautiful stone sculpture of sleeping guards from Reutlingen Marienkirche in South Germany (the owner of photo is Timm Radt):

Spiridonov 12th December 2011 05:08 PM

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Spiridonov 12th December 2011 05:25 PM

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Stone arquebusier
from this site: http://ostdudauphin.forumperso.com/f...urces-diverses
Arquebusier de la mise au tombeau (Début XVIe) de la cathédrale d'Auch (Gers, France)

Spiridonov 12th December 2011 05:26 PM

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Spiridonov 12th December 2011 05:29 PM

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fernando 12th December 2011 07:42 PM

Good ... very good !
Thanks for sharing Alexander :)

Matchlock 12th December 2011 11:28 PM

Hi Alexander,

These stone sculptures doubtlessly range among the most important Late Gothic period artwork on early firearms known so far - thank you so much! ;)

Best,
Michael

Matchlock 14th December 2011 10:26 PM

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Two interesting surviving examples of almost exactly the Reutlingen type of Landsknecht snap matchlock arquebuses, their lock mechanisms either missing or replaced, and all parts originally and individually nailed to the stocks without lockplates, each ca. 1470's-1500, and preserved in the Royal Armouires Leeds. Please note that the - characteristically expected! - reinforced muzzle sections are missing, both in the stone sculpture and in the existing originals, a feature limited, though rare, to the period around 1500.

The arquebusier is illustrated in the act of fixing a length of thick matchcord to the clamp (head) of the serpentine!

Best,
Michael

Matchlock 14th December 2011 11:05 PM

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The buttstock of the Reutlingen arquebus sculptured into stone clearly resembles that of a completely preserved original item now in the Hermitage St. Petersburg, made in Nuremberg, ca. 1512-115, the butt painted with the arms of the Nuremberg family of Behaim, the three-stage brass barrel clearly more evolved than the ones illustrated above.

Best,
m

Matchlock 18th December 2011 06:36 PM

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In the Bavarian Army Museum Ingolstadt are three crude but nevertheless interesting arquebuses (from Schrobenhausen, a town nearby) preserved that much resemble the one illustrated in Auch cathedral (see images above).

The can be dated closely to ca. 1490-1500.

Best,
Michael

Spiridonov 19th December 2011 02:31 PM

Thank You for share this! It seems Croatian type of arquebuses :shrug:

Matchlock 19th December 2011 07:55 PM

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Do you have images of similar Croatian arquebuses, Alexander?

I think these barrels are Nuremberg made and the straight or crooked buttstocks were common to Central Europe 500 years ago.

Attached find illustrations from the painting Die Schlacht im Walde (The Forest Battle), Nuremberg, 1502, and from the Lucerne Chronicle by Diebold Schilling, 1513, depicting the same short and either straight or crooked buttstocks on arquebuses.

Best,
Michael

Spiridonov 20th December 2011 09:38 AM

Michael, I mean this type (second and third from top to bottom)
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/attach...id=79565&stc=1
the book "Medieval handgonners" mentions that this type is croatian. We can see cross as the mark on the barrel. I have seen similar in book. But this book is muddle-headed :(

Matchlock 21st December 2011 10:52 PM

Alexander,

As I wrote I am absolutely convinced that these barrels, including the one with the cross mark, were wrought in a Nuremberg workshop. Two similar Nuremberg hackbuts with the same workshop mark, and both ca. 1490-1500, are in my collection.

Best,
Michael

Spiridonov 22nd December 2011 09:52 AM

this book should be thrown on a scrapyard

Matchlock 22nd December 2011 10:01 PM

Hi Alexander,

Before throwing it away, could we please see the hackbuts and marks in question?

Best,
Michael

Spiridonov 18th March 2012 06:33 PM

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http://www.linkopingshistoria.se/medeltid/1400-tal/

Matchlock 19th March 2012 06:28 PM

Stone Reliefs in Linköping Cathedral, Sweden
 
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More, showing a crossbow, a stone, a trumpet - and something now missing.

All end of 15th c., the ceiling dated 1499.

Best,
Michael

Anandalal N. 20th March 2012 06:18 PM

Alexander,

Here's a thought. Could the sleeping guard in the first image have timed his sleep to perfection? Knowing how much time it takes for the match-cord to burn a given length he would be woken up when the heat of the match reaches his fingers. Could that be an effective alarm?

Anandalal N.


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