Pesh Kabz ?.....Karud ?......comments information please
 

Just acquired this ......but is it a Pesh Kabz or Karud......which ever it is it is my first....unfortunately no scabbard. I am waiting for delivery but seller's description is below. Please any info or comments...age?....gratefully received.

Overall length 10ins not counting extension of tang.Blade length5 5/8ins and 1 1/4
at the widest.Blade decorated on both sides of the forte.the ferrule seems to be brass or nickel. the grips are 2 horn slabs held to the tang by 2 rivets.Small piece of horn split off on one side of pommel.

Hi Katana,

You have a pesh kabz – congratulation, a pity the scabbard is missing, but it is often so. Is the hilt made of horn?

Hi Jens,
the seller states that it is horn....he seems knowledgeable so I've no reason to doubt him. Would you have any suggestions as to age or the region this knife originated ?

I think it is of a recent manufacture: the blade is reworked from some military weapon and the "dots" at the ricasso look new. They remind me of a newly-minted Kukris with the "Made in India" markings.
Some time ago we had this discussion already (twice, as a matter of fact) and I made a royal ass of myself
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...oora+pesh+kabz
I learned my lesson: it is a Choora, not a Karud and not a Pesh Kabz.
My late dog needed 3 repetitions to learn something new; I managed to require only two. Ain't evolution grand?

Hi David,

I've yet to get my hands on one of these...the hilt has a greenigh hue, so I'd think it's horn. Does the blade have a massive fuller or is it just an artefact of the lighting...if it's a fuller, Ariel might be right that it's cut from some other blade.

Ariel, thanks for the link, it's very helpful. I've see some choora with extremely small blades and just tiny overall, fragile-looking...would these be the recent variety?

Emanuel

I fully agree and I'm adding my 0,00000000002 euros: Be carefull thoose rivets appears only on new pieces and they are flooding ebay.

The knife arrived. It has a deep fuller either side, is incredibly sharp and the blade has 'quality' and some age. The spine is 8mm at the handle and distally tapers. The fittings are a little 'cruder' than a high end example, but is solid. The horn handle has some chipping and it seems to have been used....I do not think this is 'tourist'. I think that Ariel is right the blade seems to be a reworked piece....it seems older than the 'fittings'. A light 'honing' would make this 'scapel' sharp :eek: ......until I get a sheath.....I'm leaving it 'as is'

modern probaly out of pakistan

Thanks Ward, I agree modern/vintage in manufacture....but the blade definately seems older :shrug: