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Araņa_del_Sol 16th March 2024 07:41 PM

Mystery sword - tourist/souvenir piece?
 
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Hi all,

I recently obtained a sword I have not been able to place, it has a wide leaf-shaped blade but a constricted "neck" with small spikes near the hilt. There are somewhat faint V-shaped incisions along the center of the blade (hopefully visible in closeup picture). The hilt is wrapped in copper wire and has a fish tail pommel. Overall, the sword is quite heavy and very sharp. Unfortunately my search for a cultural/regional attribution has not turned up any matches, I suspect it might be a ceremonial item or possibly a tourist piece. Any insights on an ID would be greatly appreciated.

Overall length: 58.7 cm (~23 in.)
Blade width: 9.6 cm (~3.8 in.)

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Sajen 16th March 2024 08:40 PM

Looks African! Search here: https://african-weapons.com/gallery?...word-and-knife
Maybe you will find a match! ;)

Regards,
Detlef

Araņa_del_Sol 17th March 2024 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Sajen (Post 289473)
Looks African! Search here: https://african-weapons.com/gallery?...word-and-knife
Maybe you will find a match! ;)

Regards,
Detlef

Hi Detlef,

Thanks, it does look somewhat similar to the Lele/Lulua sword on pg. 15, but the hilt is odd. I wonder if it is a recent replacement?

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Sajen 17th March 2024 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Araņa_del_Sol (Post 289477)
Hi Detlef,

Thanks, it does look somewhat similar to the Lele/Lulua sword on pg. 15, but the hilt is odd. I wonder if it is a recent replacement?

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Hi ADS,

I am very unsure about this blade, never have seen something similar before!? I would contact the owner of the site and would ask him if he has seen something similar before.

Regards,
Detlef

Pertinax 17th March 2024 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Sajen (Post 289493)
Hi ADS,

I am very unsure about this blade, never have seen something similar before!? I would contact the owner of the site and would ask him if he has seen something similar before.

Regards,
Detlef

Hello ADS

I support Detlef. Pay attention to the copper wire on the handle. It is round and looks like an electrical cable. Old African swords usually have rough, hammered brass.

Regards, Yuri

milandro 17th March 2024 06:17 PM

It looks like an Central African Luba sword where the hilt has been crudely replaced by a flat hilt wrapped in brass

Tim Simmons 18th March 2024 07:26 AM

The decoration on the blade seems to suggest Africa. If a person came across some heavier round copper wire? Why not use it.

Pertinax 18th March 2024 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Tim Simmons (Post 289508)
The decoration on the blade seems to suggest Africa. If a person came across some heavier round copper wire? Why not use it.

Of course the sword was made in Africa, but it is not old.

Sajen 18th March 2024 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Pertinax (Post 289511)
Of course the sword was made in Africa, but it is not old.


Hi Juri,

I would rather assume that an old blade has been given a new handle. The copper winding also doesn't look what I am used to seeing with African blades. I suspect that this was not done in Africa!

Regards,
Detlef

Pertinax 18th March 2024 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Sajen (Post 289522)
Hi Juri,

I would rather assume that an old blade has been given a new handle. The copper winding also doesn't look what I am used to seeing with African blades. I suspect that this was not done in Africa!

Regards,
Detlef

Hi Detlef

We may no longer be able to reliably know the truth about this sword.

In African countries, various ethnic swords and spears are produced for tourists. Few local artisans make traditional items of their tribes. This is mainly done "on African motives", so braided electrical cable on the handle is quite possible. With the development of tourism, the demand is very high, almost every tourist takes home an African sword or African spear in their suitcase.

Regards, Yuri


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