Ethnographic Arms & Armour

Ethnographic Arms & Armour (http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/index.php)
-   Ethnographic Weapons (http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/forumdisplay.php?f=2)
-   -   Definition of a Greek yataghan? (http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=25175)

kronckew 11th August 2019 07:18 PM

1 Attachment(s)
:D:D:D:D:D Indeed! A rose by any other name would smell as sweet...

If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck.


If it looks like a Yat, walks like a Yat and cuts like a Yat, it's a Yataghan.

Or I'm quackers...(maybe both ;))

I have a Brass hilted infantry Yataghan with a double edged blade! Both edges sharp as heck too. cross section is a flattened rhombus.

ariel 11th August 2019 08:44 PM

I am a bit uneasy with that approach.
European “Yataghans” are not homogenous: one group belongs to rather faithful reproductions of the Ottoman weapon. Recall Labruna workshop in Naples, Manceaux in France, some old Zlatoust replicas.

But Chassepot bayonets are a different kettle of fish. Thehuy borrowed the idea of a recurved blade and attached to them completely foreign handles.

They are industrially manufactured regulation weapons devoid of any personality.

sfenoid13 13th August 2019 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kronckew
:D:D:D:D:D Indeed! A rose by any other name would smell as sweet...

If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck.


If it looks like a Yat, walks like a Yat and cuts like a Yat, it's a Yataghan.

Or I'm quackers...(maybe both ;))

I have a Brass hilted infantry Yataghan with a double edged blade! Both edges sharp as heck too. cross section is a flattened rhombus.

I think it’s just ignorant and insulting to call what you have a Yataghan! You must be joking! What you have is a joke not a Yataghan:))

ariel 13th August 2019 02:18 AM

How about lowering voltage?

Ian 13th August 2019 02:22 AM

I think Wayne and Kubur were both joking. Let's not get too serious with names. That tends to take us into stormy waters. :)


P.S. I agree with Ariel. Our posts crossed.

sfenoid13 13th August 2019 03:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ariel
How about lowering voltage?

Sorry, I apologize. Didn’t mean to sound rude. I said what I said lightheartedly.
I now see that it came out harsh.

To me Yatagan is a very special weapon that encompasses many characteristics in one place and just because one or some of these characteristics are present in a similar item we can’t sinoly call the two the same name. It’s jusst a specific name for a specific weapon. Like calling a Winchester just a rifle with a barrel or magnum revolver is the same as a berets or something like that.
Again I’m sorry if my voltage went up too high :)) didn’t mean to...

kronckew 13th August 2019 08:24 AM

Apology accepted... :shrug:

Not every bent knife is a Khukuri either, heck there are 'khukuri' that do not deserve the appellation, they are just KLO - Khukuri-Like Objects.

We here have some YLO :)

Kalasan, Flyssa, ex-Bayonets Etc. = YLO?

Like most things, there are shades of grey, not black & white.


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 01:32 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Posts are regarded as being copyrighted by their authors and the act of posting material is deemed to be a granting of an irrevocable nonexclusive license for display here.