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JustYS 4th May 2020 04:29 AM

Pamor Questions
 
Dear all,

I have couple of questions regarding Keris that has more than one pamor:

- Are there any technical limitations on how many pamor a Keris can have?
- Are there any technical limitations or conventional constraints on which type of pamor can be made together (i.e. miring with miring?, mlumah with mlumah?)

Cheers,

A. G. Maisey 4th May 2020 10:24 PM

In respect of technical limitations the only limitations I can think of are the skill of the smith. The process is simply pattern welding.

In respect of cultural limitations the limiting factors are whether we have a different pamor (only one motif) on each side of a blade, or whether we have multiple motifs on both sides of the blade.

In the first option of a blade with, say, wos wutah on one side and bendo sagodo on the other side, we have pamor tangkis, "tangkis" means to defend against, parry, ward off. Pamor tangkis is believed to be a defence against black magic, a shield, if you will.

In the case of multiple motifs, the number of motifs should always be odd, and should be understood to reflect the same hierarchical symbolism as the number of luk in a blade.

jagabuwana 5th May 2020 12:10 AM

in the case of pamor tangkis, is the execution a matter of making two pattern-welded laminations, and then welding the two laminations together?

A. G. Maisey 5th May 2020 02:27 AM

Make a billet of wos wutah sufficient for both blade faces, insert steel core between them, weld, surface manipulate one blade face to produce udan mas or bendo sagodo or wiji timun or whatever, finish the blade.

JustYS 5th May 2020 03:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey
In respect of technical limitations the only limitations I can think of are the skill of the smith. The process is simply pattern welding.

In respect of cultural limitations the limiting factors are whether we have a different pamor (only one motif) on each side of a blade, or whether we have multiple motifs on both sides of the blade.

In the first option of a blade with, say, wos wutah on one side and bendo sagodo on the other side, we have pamor tangkis, "tangkis" means to defend against, parry, ward off. Pamor tangkis is believed to be a defence against black magic, a shield, if you will.

In the case of multiple motifs, the number of motifs should always be odd, and should be understood to reflect the same hierarchical symbolism as the number of luk in a blade.

Thank you for your explanations Alan.

Regarding your last paragraph may I ask further clarifications?

So for example a Keris with 2 pamors (i.e. ron genduru and wengkon) on both sides of the blades is considered outside the cultural constraints because the number of motifs in only 2 (even number)?

Or is ron genduru and wengkon considered as 1 pamor only?

Thank you

A. G. Maisey 5th May 2020 05:53 AM

My understanding is that a pamor that incorporates a wengkon is a single motif.

JustYS 6th May 2020 01:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey
My understanding is that a pamor that incorporates a wengkon is a single motif.

Noted and thank you Alan


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