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salsan 25th March 2018 01:48 PM

Sword pommel
 
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Hi
Help determine the pommel of the sword.
In Peterson's book, he points to the finding of two or three swords with a similar pommel.
The question is -

1. Is this pommel originally created in this form?
2. Or the pommel has lost its upper part?

In the photo you can see that the shank was riveted right after the first part of the top, although it is well known that the rasp has always completed the opening of the second part.
Gentlemen, what are your opinions?
Regards Alex

salsan 26th March 2018 10:02 PM

There is still no answer. Really no one was interested in this ambiguous question? Or is it clear to everyone and only I do not know anything?

cornelistromp 27th March 2018 11:07 AM

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beautifull sword!

there is a theory that relics were bound to the pommel, in order to avert misfortune.
this bracket could be intended for this, the organic material has been lost after 1000 year, of course.

hopes it helps

best,
Jasper

fernando 27th March 2018 11:32 AM

Can we see a picture of the whole sword, Alex ?
Is it part of your collection ?

Lee 27th March 2018 11:55 AM

2. Lost the outer shell of the pommel
 
I believe that part of the pommel would have been lost, the loop presently seen having once supported an outer shell decorated en suite with the rest of the hilt. Still, it remains a gorgeous Petersen type H hilt.

Reventlov 27th March 2018 12:05 PM

I think it is almost certain that these are cases where the upper portion of the pommel has been lost... The examples originally published by Petersen have been re-examined by Fedir Androshchuk and he is positive they are simply damaged specimens of Petersen's type H.

Oh, I was too slow!

salsan 27th March 2018 12:38 PM

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I was also inclined to think that the upper part was lost. Many thanks to all for your help and your answers. Alex

Lee 31st March 2018 03:31 PM

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This illustration from Alfred Geibig's Beiträge zur morphologischen Entwicklung des Schwertes im Mittelalter: Eine Analyse des Fundmaterials vom ausgehenden 8. bis zum 12. Jahrhundert aus Sammlungen der Bundesrepublik Deutschland (Neumünster: Karl Wachholtz Verlag, 1991) shows the main variations of Viking Age hilt construction.

salsan 1st April 2018 05:38 AM

Dear Lee, many thanks for your help.


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