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rickystl 1st January 2012 07:34 PM

Maker Mark/I.D.
 
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Hello all. This is a miquelet lock from an Algerian Rifle. This photo looks like it might be a Maker's mark or I.D. If so, can anyone translate this? Thanks for any help. Rick.

fernando 1st January 2012 09:29 PM

Hi Rick,
While you wait for a translation, you may start by looking here:

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=14132

Dom 3rd January 2012 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by rickystl
Hello all. This is a miquelet lock from an Algerian Rifle. This photo looks like it might be a Maker's mark or I.D. If so, can anyone translate this? Thanks for any help. Rick.

Hi Rick
... I should like to please you, but you are not a newby here,
do you forgot our rules ? :p ... just complied with
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=11201I
and, you will have your translation, but don't expected too much from it :(
Happy New Year

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Dom

rickystl 3rd January 2012 06:33 PM

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Hi Fernando!! Thank you for the Link.

Dom: So sorry. I did not remember. I will from this point forward. Thanks.

This is an Algerian rifle from likely the early to mid 1800's. This is a restoration I just completed. It has a modern steel barrel liner installed inside the original barrel for safe shooting. The new barrel bands were made by Armourer John Katz.
The lock is the typical toe-lock style miquelet. Other than the normal decoration the only mark I can find is on the bottom of the lock as shown in the first photo above. Probably won't tell me much, but it might be interesting (?) to know. Thanks for any help. Rick.

Dom 4th January 2012 01:01 AM

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Dom: So sorry. I did not remember. I will from this point forward. Thanks

Hi Rick deeply sorry, to have played, the disturber ... :o
but I do not regret, as the pictures show a very nice rifle, with a fine restoration, respecting the old parts, it's a pleasure to be able to admire it
thanks again :D

engraving, just one (1) word ... :shrug:
AMAL either MADE BY ... nothing more unfortunately :(

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Dom

Ibrahiim al Balooshi 4th January 2012 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by rickystl
Hello all. This is a miquelet lock from an Algerian Rifle. This photo looks like it might be a Maker's mark or I.D. If so, can anyone translate this? Thanks for any help. Rick.

Salaams rickystl ~ This is an interesting mark.

I thought it said Akhbar...meaning Great ~ but Dom reckons made by . I can see that...

I saw a similar mark on The "TVV kattara for comment" thread at post #149. By Michael Blalock. Both marks placed below for ease of reference.

Could it be that the simple cross on some Arab swords is related to this mark as a simplified short version..?

Either way if the marks are the same it tends to add weight to an Algerian sword origin to the subject blade..(and/or blademark) It is geographically plausible. :shrug:

Regards,
Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

rickystl 5th January 2012 04:47 PM

Hi Dom. Thank you so much for your reply. "Made by" Hmmmm. I'm going to look at this lock closer again tonight in case I missed something else. Thanks again Dom. Rick.

rickystl 7th January 2012 08:17 PM

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Hi Dom. Thank you so much for your reply. "Made by" Hmmmm. I'm going to look at this lock closer again tonight in case I missed something else. Thanks again Dom. Rick.

This is the only other mark I could find. I'm not even sure this is a mark?
Anyway, thank for you help. Rick.

rickystl 10th January 2012 02:03 PM

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