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Patje1970 9th June 2019 03:10 PM

Is it possible to identify the pamor on this Madura Keris
 
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Hi all,

Is it possible to identify the pamor on this Madura Keris based on the photo's?

regards Pat

Sajen 9th June 2019 03:40 PM

Beras wutah!

drdavid 9th June 2019 10:15 PM

Beras wutah for me too
DrD

Patje1970 10th June 2019 06:45 AM

thanks for the info

regards Pat

Marcokeris 10th June 2019 10:54 AM

Ngulit Semangka

A. G. Maisey 10th June 2019 12:42 PM

Perhaps you might like to explain why you favour ngulit semongko over wos wutah Marco?

Marcokeris 10th June 2019 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey
Perhaps you might like to explain why you favour ngulit semongko over wos wutah Marco?

IMO because the blade has very little layers

A. G. Maisey 10th June 2019 01:06 PM

Yes, there are very few layers of pamor material remaining on this blade, it is heavily eroded, but if we look at the pamor nearest to the gonjo, those layers are not really the heavy layers that we find in ngulit semongko.

I feel that most people would probably give this as wos wutah (beras wutah), as they do with just about any random mlumah pamor that does not display the very broad bands of ngulit semongko or a manipulated surface.

Personally, I'm reluctant to give the pamor a name, it is too heavily eroded for me to guess what it might have looked like when it was new. I think I'd be happy enough just to give it as "random pattern", or "mlumah".

Marcokeris 10th June 2019 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey
Yes, there are very few layers of pamor material remaining on this blade, it is heavily eroded, but if we look at the pamor nearest to the gonjo, those layers are not really the heavy layers that we find in ngulit semongko.

I feel that most people would probably give this as wos wutah (beras wutah), as they do with just about any random mlumah pamor that does not display the very broad bands of ngulit semongko or a manipulated surface.

Personally, I'm reluctant to give the pamor a name, it is too heavily eroded for me to guess what it might have looked like when it was new. I think I'd be happy enough just to give it as "random pattern", or "mlumah".

Thanks :)


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