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not2sharp 16th January 2013 05:44 PM

Japanese Kwaiken?
 
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This small knife has been in my collection for some time. I would like when it was likely made and whether it is consistent with known Japanese knives.

n2s

Atlantia 16th January 2013 05:56 PM

"Welease the Kwaiken" ;)

Rich 16th January 2013 07:46 PM

I don't believe this is a kwaiken - Japanese ladies sleeve tanto. I think it is a WW II officer's dirk; unfortunately in rather poor condition.

Rich S
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Japanese Sword Guide
http://japaneseswordindex.com/nihonto.htm

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not2sharp 16th January 2013 08:22 PM

Rich,

Thanks for the input. I have found remarkably little information on these knives or any other antique Japanese knives online.

n2s
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Originally Posted by Rich
I don't believe this is a kwaiken - Japanese ladies sleeve tanto. I think it is a WW II officer's dirk; unfortunately in rather poor condition.

Rich S
-------------------------------------------------------
Richard Stein, PhD

Japanese Sword Guide
http://japaneseswordindex.com/nihonto.htm

"Never go anywhere without a knife"
- Leroy Jethro Gibbs
-------------------------------------------------------


not2sharp 16th January 2013 08:56 PM

I am familiar with the officer's navy dirks which look very different. Would this have been an Army officer's dirk?

n2s

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich
I don't believe this is a kwaiken - Japanese ladies sleeve tanto. I think it is a WW II officer's dirk; unfortunately in rather poor condition.

Rich S
-------------------------------------------------------
Richard Stein, PhD

Japanese Sword Guide
http://japaneseswordindex.com/nihonto.htm

"Never go anywhere without a knife"
- Leroy Jethro Gibbs
-------------------------------------------------------


Rich 16th January 2013 09:49 PM

Yes, most likely an army officer's dirk. See my website for examples:

Japanese Sword Guide
http://japaneseswordindex.com/nihonto.htm

Go to the Japanese military dirks page.

Rich

trenchwarfare 17th January 2013 01:12 AM

This type knife is referred to as an "Aikuchi" which is a dagger without a guard. Kwaiken is styled differently, and intended to be carried by women. These are often called "Kamikazi daggers", and are of the style carried by them. Your example is of better quality than most, and may be worthy of a polish. WWII era, or before. The leather cover denotes combat carry. As there was no regulation dagger for army officers, many of these were carried. Lots of these were given to departing soldiers by their mothers, grandmothers, etc. With a whispering in the ear of "Return victorious, or not at all" Nice piece.

not2sharp 17th January 2013 04:14 AM

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Here are some additional photos of the OP knife.

n2s

trenchwarfare 17th January 2013 06:25 PM

Ooh, didn't see the pitting in the first photo. No, not a polish candidate. Looks like it bathed in something caustic, and was cleaned up. Still, it is an interesting, and historic piece.

not2sharp 17th January 2013 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by trenchwarfare
Ooh, didn't see the pitting in the first photo. No, not a polish candidate. Looks like it bathed in something caustic, and was cleaned up. Still, it is an interesting, and historic piece.

Most likely it was exposed to the warm, humid and salty air in South Florida for too long.

n2s

estcrh 19th January 2013 07:06 AM

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Fyi, there is not a lot of information available about kwaiken, Wikipedia has an article with all the basic information and references.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaiken_(dagger)

A kwaiken is just a small blade in a basic mount with very little or no fittings.

kronckew 19th January 2013 09:09 AM

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estcrh, that looks like a yari spearpoint mounted as a dagger. what i'd call a tombak/lading terus if it were indonesian. like this:

estcrh 20th January 2013 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by kronckew
estcrh, that looks like a yari spearpoint mounted as a dagger. what i'd call a tombak/lading terus if it were indonesian. like this:

Yes they are very similar, the mounts are in the kwaiken style, there is no set rule as to the blade type of a kwaiken.


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