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ASPaulding 27th October 2022 02:56 AM

Hussar model 1777 French Mameluke??
 
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I purchase this sword recently and have done a little research. The blade is from Klingenthal (blade valley). I think it is from the late 18th century. The hilt is Mameluke style but I don't know if it is from the same time line. There is some marks on the hilt but I can only make out a couple of numbers. I really want this to be from the Mamelukes of the Imperial Guard that served Napoleon but I have never seen a bronze cast hilt example like this one. Please give me your opinion. Thank you

ASPaulding 27th October 2022 02:58 AM

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A few more photos.

Radboud 27th October 2022 07:14 AM

I’m not comfortable with the casting of the bronze grip. It’s too unrefined / unfinished for a French officer sabre or for the Imperial Guard. Looking at the langets, I have to wonder if the sword as mounted would even fit in a scabbard. It would be tight at the very least.

The blade is good, pre-1800 going by the writing style on the spine, which further casts into doubt that they are original to each other.

corrado26 27th October 2022 07:29 AM

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The signature on both sides of the blade stands for "République Francaise" and for the time of the French Revolution, when the "Garde des Mamelucks" was still unknown. This is a privately ordered hussar sabre made at Klingenthal in about 1790 , it has nothing to do with the Mamelucks. .

ASPaulding 27th October 2022 08:59 PM

Thank you very much for the information.

Dmitry 2nd November 2022 05:19 PM

The hilt could be from a societal/masonic sword, or a Hungarian magnate sword, or from India. The casting isn't of terrible quality. Doesn't look like the hilt and the blade were mated recently, but I've been wrong before. I wonder how the hilt and the blade are held together. Be careful swinging the sword; the blade my come flying.


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