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CharlesS 27th October 2008 09:20 PM

Another Unusual Moro Kriss....any ideas??
 
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Here is yet another Moro kriss variant. I have seen several brass pommel krisses, but not a fully cast brass hilt like this. The seam in the casting seems to be covered with yet another piece of highly detailed work to the bottom of the pommel.

Also note the high detailed and somewhat unusual belalai gajah and jenggot gajah(Indonesian terms for those parts), or lower guard. The 'elephant trunk' has not been shortened or broken, and appears higher and more notched than typical....if, indeed, that is the 'trunk'.

Any ideas regarding origins are welcomed. I have no reason to think this is anything other than Moro, but from where, more specifically?

Spunjer 27th October 2008 10:25 PM

most likely, maguindanao, charles, with the handle casted by a neighboring t'boli smith..

CharlesS 27th October 2008 10:41 PM

I wondered if there might be T'boli involvement....seems like every time a piece of brass orginates from the Philippines the T'boli or Bagobo become an option.

apolaki 28th October 2008 12:13 AM

what are those two silvery stripes on each end of the bottom of the sword's base called?

Spunjer 28th October 2008 01:40 AM

check out this bagobo sword (sorry, pics slightly out of focus):


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...r/9fe04354.jpg
middle


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...r/467447cb.jpg


the reason i said t'boli is because of their proximity to the maguindanao. but then again could be a Bagobo handiwork


apolaki, are you referring to the metal straps? if it is, depending on the tribe, it's either baka-baka, or asang-asang

CharlesS 28th October 2008 01:55 AM

Great pic/example Spunjer. Thanks.

I'm a little surprised now that we haven't seen other similar kriss examples.

Battara 28th October 2008 03:35 AM

Tboli are renowned for their brass work and are experts at casting solid brass hilts.

David 28th October 2008 04:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spunjer
apolaki, are you referring to the metal straps? if it is, depending on the tribe, it's either baka-baka, or asang-asang

To take Ron's explanation a step further , these straps are used to secure the blade to the hilt. They are not merely decorative.

Rick 28th October 2008 02:16 PM

Straps
 
Also referred to as 'stirrups' by some . :)


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